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re: LIV Viewership down again

Posted on 3/22/23 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by Power-Dome
Member since Nov 2012
1112 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 4:10 pm to
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You can’t take a niche sport and fracture the fan base in half and expect to turn a profit.


I don’t think it was LIV who fractured the fan base
Posted by DallasTiger
THE Capital City
Member since Jan 2004
4224 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 4:29 pm to
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So you think the Saudi's are losing sleep?


Maybe a couple minutes a night...

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Indeed, the most important barometer is the press room lunch: Last year featured decadent buffets with hot entrees and a cornucopia of desserts, but in Tucson it was the same cold sandwiches and pre-packaged cookies day after day. OK, that’s not the most important barometer, but it is symptomatic of larger belt-tightening. To get things off the ground in 2022, LIV covered all of the travel expenses for the players and (most of) their entourages, but now those costs have been offloaded to each team. That decision might be traced to the pique of His Excellency Yasir al-Rumayyan, the governor of the Saudi Arabian Public Investment Fund, which pays all of LIV’s bills. (Al-Rumayyan is also chairman of Saudi Aramco, which reported a $161 billion profit in 2022.) Norman is the frontman, but al-Rumayyan, who is often referred to internally at LIV as “The Investor,” is calling the shots. Last year he provided a deluxe 747 charter to ferry players from LIV Portland to the JP McManus Pro-Am in Ireland but was furious when social media posts made the plane look like a flying frat party. There are no chartered jets this year. Al-Rumayyan and his deputy, Majed al-Sorour, were omnipresent at the LIV events last year, bro-hugging their way through the pro-ams and hosting Tuesday night player parties with fancy wines. But they have been noticeably absent this year, a signal they are now treating LIV more like a business and not a fantasy camp for weekend hackers with PIF money.


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“Every expense is getting double- and triple-checked now,” says another player. “Just take a look at the musical acts.” Last year LIV hosted post-round concerts for fans featuring headliners including Diplo, Jason Durelo, Nelly and, not least, the Chainsmokers, stolen away from the warm embrace of the PGA Tour. On Friday in Tucson, the music came courtesy of a DJ with minimal star power.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 4:37 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57631 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:20 pm to
Obsessed much?
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9117 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:27 pm to
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Obsessed much?



Just stating facts.

I know it bothers a LIV apologist like you.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34231 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:29 pm to
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I originally thought the pants thing was stupid and players should be allowed to wear shorts. Then I saw what it looked like and immediately reversed my decision. If that makes me a get off my own type so be it



Had you never seen somebody wear shorts on the golf course before?

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The below just doesn’t feel right when watching


What does that matter? I'm sure the pros don't feel that great wearing pants in the tournaments that are 90+ degrees. It's something LIV does, of course it doesn't feel right to you. If the PGA allowed it, probably half or more of the guys would start wearing shorts. They already do in the practice rounds and pro-ams. The Asain Tour just allowed it, the DP Tour allowed it recently for a tournament where it was hot. The LPGA lets them wear shorts' and skirts as short as they want (which I fully support). But they aren't allowed to on the PGA because... ummm... leg hairs maybe? They'll come around and be the last to do it though, I don't doubt that.
Posted by theone
LSU
Member since Nov 2005
1811 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 7:28 pm to
I’ve watched both LIV tournaments this year - I like it.
Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 7:54 pm to
You and a few others are obsessed with LIV. Much like Trump derangement syndrome shite.

Still no thread or comments about the WGC that started today, but oh, the PGA only butt plugs only want to bring down LIV without one thread regarding the WGC, which is a huge PGA event.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 8:02 pm
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1585 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:26 pm to
He is majorly obsessed.
Posted by theone
LSU
Member since Nov 2005
1811 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:46 am to
I watched a large part of the Match Play yesterday and will today. Love match play, love the event and the course.

It's okay to enjoy both.

I just don't get the LIV hate of "its only 3 rounds" "team aspect is dumb" and so on - LIV has good golfers and it's a quick easy watch with the shotgun start.
Posted by Nola1962
Member since Jul 2020
180 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:55 am to
No only money in this current endeavor!!!
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50337 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 1:37 pm to
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Al-Rumayyan and his deputy, Majed al-Sorour, were omnipresent at the LIV events last year, bro-hugging their way through the pro-ams and hosting Tuesday night player parties with fancy wines. But they have been noticeably absent this year, a signal they are now treating LIV more like a business and not a fantasy camp for weekend hackers with PIF money.


This was always going to end this way. The Saudi's always move on to the next shiny object. Irrespective of your thoughts on human rights, the pga tour, etc. They were never going to put in the effort and time to compete and it was always gonna be a flash in the pan. They don't have the support system to have it any other way. Someone always comes in and temps them with soem flashy concept and then once the press and newness fades and they bleed them dry, they move on.
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