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re: LIV MEGA Thread: Liv is Crumbling and the end is near
Posted on 11/6/26 at 7:13 am to LSUfan4444
Posted on 11/6/26 at 7:13 am to LSUfan4444
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I said in the end, LIV would improve the PGA product similarly to how the USFL improved the NFL and it did just that with higher purses, accountability and player equity.
LIV has absolutely not improved the PGA product.
The PGA Tour is about to contract by eliminating half of its tournaments and about 40% of its available tour cards. Sports leagues and entities only contract when they have serious financial difficulties. They are not broke like LIV, but they are in trouble.
You can add Colonial to the list of events that are going away. They have told the tour no on being a challenger event, and their relationship with Schwab will get them a Champions Tour slot. Instead, the Byron Nelson gets the DFW slot because it's putting up more money, despite the fact that this event has been total shite since Byron passed, and was pretty crappy when he was alive.
Zurich wants a Champions Tour spot as well, but we'll see if that happens.
So, Colonial is done. Zurich is done. St. Jude is done. Pretty sure the Heritage is out as well. You call that improvement?
LIV has done irreparable harm to professional golf in that it exploited the players' greed. Those chickens are coming home to roost in a much smaller tour filled with unproven new events in cities where tourney after tourney have been tried and failed.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 7:21 am to bstaceyau19
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So, Colonial is done. Zurich is done. St. Jude is done. Pretty sure the Heritage is out as well. You call that improvement?
Yes
Posted on 11/6/26 at 9:52 am to Swagga
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I don’t think anyone has more egg on their face in this whole debacle than Phil. Just totally vaporized his legacy.
Yep, anyone that said Phil was right the whole time, was clueless.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 9:56 am to LSUfan4444
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I said in the end, LIV would improve the PGA product similarly to how the USFL improved the NFL and it did just that with higher purses, accountability and player equity. You didn't have to like LIV to realize the end result would be a net positive.
LIV was the worst thing to happen to the PGA Tour and the fan experience. The PGA Tour had to take private equity money to help stave off LIV and had to contract events.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 10:04 am to bstaceyau19
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a much smaller tour filled with unproven new events in cities where tourney after tourney have been tried and failed.
yeah I'm not sold on the idea that Brian Rolapp is the right man for the job. I know he's got a nice resume, but the changes I've seen so far have me skeptical of his vision.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:10 am to slidingstop
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yeah I'm not sold on the idea that Brian Rolapp is the right man for the job. I know he's got a nice resume, but the changes I've seen so far have me skeptical of his vision.
he comes off as a yes man to me. I don't think this was his vision, he just listened to what the top players on Tour were telling him to do, and of course they're going to push for fewer events and all with massive purses.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:14 am to lsufball19
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he comes off as a yes man to me. I don't think this was his vision, he just listened to what the top players on Tour were telling him to do, and of course they're going to push for fewer events and all with massive purses.
The players have never wanted Match Play for the end of the year tournament, and he is pushing that. Also, he is getting rid of exemptions to an extent. I wish he would go further with it, but that's also a decision the players likely wouldn't agree with.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 11:22 am to DestrehanTiger
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The players have never wanted Match Play for the end of the year tournament,
eh, a lot of them have supported it actually. Regardless, this new format (and the Tour's new format) was mainly driven by Tiger woods and his competition committee. He and his committee spearheaded the framework of the Tour, and then the Tour had outside consultants for the financial framework. Rolapp doesn't appear to much more than a figurehead in waiting.
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