re: LIV Golf will broadcast on FS1

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quote: So you think MOST startups require billions in dollars to be spent? Depends how you define startup, but yes, absolutely, it's not up for debate. Several billion usually. Any operation as big as LIV is going to raise and spend billions of dollars

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Golf aside I’ve been thinking about how would you really create a competitive sports league. The barriers to entry are massive and the only way is something ridiculous like the Saudi government throwing billions at it.

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The fact they couldn't get any network to give them a deal is surprising.

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Not really given the political leanings of who runs the large media conglomerates and the nonstop negative media coverage by news outlets literally all over the world. You’ve had a few stray golf media individuals provide fair opinions on it, but other than that it’s been a nonstop onslaught.

There’s only one side trying to shoehorn politics into LIV.

Nothing about the presentation of LIV golf even points to Saudi Arabia or anything other than golf. There’s not even a “welcome to LIV golf: presented by Saudi PIF” or anything of the sort.

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I don’t think it’s a coincidence Trump is being heavily leaned on

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Trump isn’t being “leaned on”. His courses are being used because the PGA/R&A pulled his courses from their rotation because of politics. Not many major courses are willing to sign up for the media blitz coming their way for just hosting a LIV event.

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Wait. I've been told it was just a couple of tournaments. Off weeks to supplement the schedule. You mean that's not true?

Maybe the PGAT sniffed that fox, err Shark, out right away and has been very appropriate in their response.

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This has been a hostile takeover from the beginning. LIV doesn't want to coexist with the PGA.

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No one thought it was possible that golfers would leave the PGA for LIV for guaranteed money with some getting over a hundred million? Please.

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The PGA Tour Commissioner himself declared the league "dead" in February.

Keep your head, and accompanying pea brain, shoved so far up your arse though

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This has been a hostile takeover from the beginning. LIV doesn't want to coexist with the PGA.

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Except for their expressed desire to supplement the tour and the fact they allow their players to play other tour’s events.

I’m sure LIV had multiple strategies laid out when they started.

The ideal case was probably to co-exist with the tour and maximize the players in LIV while the players would gain OWGR points in the tour. I’m sure they also thought this ideal case wasn’t that likely.

Secondary case - get a few top flight golfers (likely thinking they would target players with major exemptions) no matter what and then fight for OWGR points.

Worst - can not attract a big name and fold

They are in the middle. So they have sunk costs and now they are going to go further and I bet they make the TV product excellent next year. The end of year team tournament sounds awesome.

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3) entertainment seems to be getting more and more fractured. I cant get my kids to watch broadcast tv at all…occasionally my son will watch sports with me…but this generation seems to enjoy all the other options much more than live sports. I think the piece of pie for sorts-tainmemt will shrink in our lifetimes.

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being able to watch all the relevant highlights for any sporting event in a matter of minutes, at any time, with the touch of a button is what this generation knows. They have been programmed through their environment not to need to sit through hours of an event to see what happens. And this isn't even excusive to sporting events, it applies to information in general. The younger generations don't read entire articles to get all of the information...they get the highlights from social media feeds. I think getting into any market like a competitive professional sports league is going to be difficult to sustain long-term, especially one trying to directly compete with a well-established entity like the PGA tour. I just feel like the financial investment needed to build something like LIV to compete in the marketplace could take decades to start yielding profits.

You can look at pretty much every non-major sports league. They either have folded quickly or have been subsidized by the major sports leagues. LIV is obviously a little different because they've been signing guys from the major sports league to their league, but there are still major hurdles that all these leagues inherently face that may be insurmountable for LIV

Had the PGA acquiesced and allowed Tour players to play on LIV and if LIV weren't now trying to compete with the Tour, then LIV wouldn't have needed to invest the hundreds of millions it took to lure the players they have away from the Tour. if it was just a matter of putting up the money to pay out big cash prizes and the operating expenses of 8 tournaments a year during "dead periods" in the Tour season, then I think the business model would have been a lot easier sell and they'd see profits much sooner.

56 players are currently over par and have finished over par. More evidence of the strength of the field.