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re: Liv and PGA to merge

Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:52 pm to
Posted by bstaceyau19
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2022
659 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:52 pm to
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Lower level players hate everything about this


That's understandable. The logical course of events has LIV Golf going away with current PGA Tour and DP World Tour events adopting some LIV concepts. This makes fewer cards available on top level tours.

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Higher level players seem more receptive to it


Also logical; they are the ones most likely to cash in very nicely.

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they all hate jay


They hate being left out of the loop. If the merger details work out to the players' satisfaction, much will be forgiven. This does seem like a Gibbs rule 19 "forgiveness over permission" move from the PGA Tour.

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This deal and the details seem far off from being close to finished


My guess is the 2025 season before changes come based on this agreement.

This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 10:54 pm
Posted by decomp03
Member since Oct 2005
107 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:28 pm to
From @KylePorterCBS on Twitter:

If you believe that today was a win for LIV, then you’re missing the entire point. LIV, it seems, never truly mattered. It was simply a pawn for Yasir and the PIF to get what they actually wanted - investment and influence in a real business.

Everybody got played at least a little, but I think Yasir got played the least of all.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
33910 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:22 am to
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Everybody got played at least a little,


Except for guys who got paid.

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but I think Yasir got played the least of all.

You think the bagman for PIF got played?
Posted by decomp03
Member since Oct 2005
107 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:50 am to
It’s a quote from a tweet. Don’t necessarily agree with the bottom part but absolutely the top part. LIV Golf was never about creating a competitive golf league to rival the PGA Tour. It was a way for PIF to gain a seat at the table so they could ultimately get what they really wanted
Posted by SOLA
There
Member since Mar 2014
3584 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:57 am to
Did not see this coming.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104157 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 7:48 am to
So was Rory the mole? He got exactly what he wanted. Quotes from over a year ago. He wanted a unified entity backed by Saudi money, well….

This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 7:49 am
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53150 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:02 am to
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Wesley Bryan is a pretty straight up dude


Yesterday you said nobody cares about Wesley Bryan. you pivot faster than Jay Monohan.
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 8:05 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104157 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:06 am to
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Yesterday you said nobody cares about Wesley Bryan. you pivot faster than Jay Monohan.
Do you enjoy lying?

I said, the TOUR doesn’t r care about Wesley Bryan. Guess what Bryan himself said in the interview? He said the PGA doesn’t care about players like him




Want to admit you fricked up? Or nah, just lie more
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 8:09 am
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53150 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:09 am to
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Want to admit you fricked up? Or nah, just lie more
nah. Yesterday you dismissed him. Today he is your source. Pretty pathetic.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104157 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:10 am to
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nah. Yesterday you dismissed him. Today he is your source. Pretty pathetic.
Ahh, so you will continue to lie. Got it

I said the tour didn’t care about him, and even said the word UNFORTUNATELY, because I personally like him. His YouTube stuff is great. Never once did I make any personal dismissal about Wesley. And the best part is, he even reiterated himself the tour doesn’t care about him

It’s a shame you have become just a lying mingo type poster, and any claim you have to being middle of the road is a joke
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 8:12 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86734 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:21 am to
You did dismiss his opinion because you said the tour doesn’t care what he thinks. That’s not really debatable. It’s in black and white.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104157 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:22 am to
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You did dismiss his opinion because you said the tour doesn’t care what he thinks. That’s not really debatable. It’s in black and white.
I dismissed it as mattering to THE TOUR. Guess who else did the same thing? Wesley Bryan…..I never once had anything discouraging to say about him personally. I like him, a lot. And I am not sure how saying a fact about him, that he himself agrees with, means he can’t be used as a source inside the players meeting for what happened? Want to explain that logic pretzel

Where did I ever say “nobody cares” about Wesley Bryan, which is the claim by bonds? Anywhere? Bueller? Bueller?
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 8:28 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86734 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:27 am to
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I dismissed it
All that matters. You don’t need another paragraph explaining yourself. You had your reasons. But now what his says is important to you because he changed is tune. We get it. Idk why you get in denial so much.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104157 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:28 am to
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But now what his says is important to you
Where did I ever say what Bryan says doesn’t matter to me? Link please. Link? Got that link? Screen shot will work too. Y’all simply are extremely emotionally invested in being LIV fans and it causes y’all to read things that didn’t happen and lie it appears.


Link please.

I’ll even reiterate my original point again. What Wesley bryan thinks, doesn’t matter to the tour. Wesley do you agree? Yes, pride, come see my interview where I agree.
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 8:31 am
Posted by generalgator87
Member since Nov 2022
487 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:31 am to
This is pretty rich coming from a journalist who had no idea what was going on behind the scenes in the first place. Kyle Porter is probably getting fed info from PGA sources who are trying to save face. The NLU guys were harping on the same thing about this being terrible for LIV, but they are similarly in bed with PGA sources.

Alan Shipnuck, who seems like he is the journalist most in tune with both sides, seems to think LIV will stick around. He thinks the Saudi's will want to expand it due to LIV being their baby.

And to be honest, no one knows what's going to happen. No one knew that a merger like this was happening. No one knows what the next steps are or who will come out on top. No one knows how regulators are going to treat this.

The PGA Tour has more seats on the table, but the funding is coming from the PIF. Those seats don't mean much if funding dries up. All we know is they are all in bed together at this point.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9258 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:38 am to
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All that matters. You don’t need another paragraph explaining yourself. You had your reasons. But now what his says is important to you because he changed is tune. We get it. Idk why you get in denial so much.


Do you know anything about reading comprehension and context?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104157 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:43 am to
“The Jews weren’t seen as human by the Nazis”


OMG HE SAID JEWS ARENT HUMANS!!!!!

-ell and bonds
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86734 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:55 am to
Well if that’s the strawman you want to use, that’s exactly what you did.

The PGA dismisses the Wesley Bryan’s of the tour… so you did too. Congrats. You’re a Nazi.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53150 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:55 am to
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Ahh, so you will continue to lie. Got it


we can all read your posts. Revisionist history doesn’t work when your words are in writing. These two days have been hilarious watching you completely melt down.

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and any claim you have to being middle of the road is a joke

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104157 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:58 am to
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we can all read your posts.
Correct. Where did iO say nobody cares about Bryan like you claim?
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