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re: Liv and PGA to merge
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:52 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:52 pm to lsupride87
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Lower level players hate everything about this
That's understandable. The logical course of events has LIV Golf going away with current PGA Tour and DP World Tour events adopting some LIV concepts. This makes fewer cards available on top level tours.
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Higher level players seem more receptive to it
Also logical; they are the ones most likely to cash in very nicely.
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they all hate jay
They hate being left out of the loop. If the merger details work out to the players' satisfaction, much will be forgiven. This does seem like a Gibbs rule 19 "forgiveness over permission" move from the PGA Tour.
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This deal and the details seem far off from being close to finished
My guess is the 2025 season before changes come based on this agreement.
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 6/6/23 at 11:28 pm to juice4lsu
From @KylePorterCBS on Twitter:
If you believe that today was a win for LIV, then you’re missing the entire point. LIV, it seems, never truly mattered. It was simply a pawn for Yasir and the PIF to get what they actually wanted - investment and influence in a real business.
Everybody got played at least a little, but I think Yasir got played the least of all.
If you believe that today was a win for LIV, then you’re missing the entire point. LIV, it seems, never truly mattered. It was simply a pawn for Yasir and the PIF to get what they actually wanted - investment and influence in a real business.
Everybody got played at least a little, but I think Yasir got played the least of all.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:22 am to decomp03
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Everybody got played at least a little,
Except for guys who got paid.
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but I think Yasir got played the least of all.
You think the bagman for PIF got played?
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:50 am to CoachChappy
It’s a quote from a tweet. Don’t necessarily agree with the bottom part but absolutely the top part. LIV Golf was never about creating a competitive golf league to rival the PGA Tour. It was a way for PIF to gain a seat at the table so they could ultimately get what they really wanted
Posted on 6/7/23 at 7:48 am to bstaceyau19
So was Rory the mole? He got exactly what he wanted. Quotes from over a year ago. He wanted a unified entity backed by Saudi money, well….



This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 7:49 am
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:02 am to lsupride87
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Wesley Bryan is a pretty straight up dude
Yesterday you said nobody cares about Wesley Bryan.

This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 8:05 am
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:06 am to BBONDS25
quote:Do you enjoy lying?
Yesterday you said nobody cares about Wesley Bryan. you pivot faster than Jay Monohan.
I said, the TOUR doesn’t r care about Wesley Bryan. Guess what Bryan himself said in the interview? He said the PGA doesn’t care about players like him

Want to admit you fricked up? Or nah, just lie more
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 8:09 am
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:09 am to lsupride87
quote:nah. Yesterday you dismissed him. Today he is your source. Pretty pathetic.
Want to admit you fricked up? Or nah, just lie more
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:10 am to BBONDS25
quote:Ahh, so you will continue to lie. Got it
nah. Yesterday you dismissed him. Today he is your source. Pretty pathetic.
I said the tour didn’t care about him, and even said the word UNFORTUNATELY, because I personally like him. His YouTube stuff is great. Never once did I make any personal dismissal about Wesley. And the best part is, he even reiterated himself the tour doesn’t care about him
It’s a shame you have become just a lying mingo type poster, and any claim you have to being middle of the road is a joke
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 8:12 am
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:21 am to lsupride87
You did dismiss his opinion because you said the tour doesn’t care what he thinks. That’s not really debatable. It’s in black and white.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:22 am to ell_13
quote:I dismissed it as mattering to THE TOUR. Guess who else did the same thing? Wesley Bryan…..I never once had anything discouraging to say about him personally. I like him, a lot. And I am not sure how saying a fact about him, that he himself agrees with, means he can’t be used as a source inside the players meeting for what happened? Want to explain that logic pretzel
You did dismiss his opinion because you said the tour doesn’t care what he thinks. That’s not really debatable. It’s in black and white.
Where did I ever say “nobody cares” about Wesley Bryan, which is the claim by bonds? Anywhere? Bueller? Bueller?
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 8:28 am
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:27 am to lsupride87
quote:All that matters. You don’t need another paragraph explaining yourself. You had your reasons. But now what his says is important to you because he changed is tune. We get it. Idk why you get in denial so much.
I dismissed it
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:28 am to ell_13
quote:Where did I ever say what Bryan says doesn’t matter to me? Link please. Link? Got that link? Screen shot will work too. Y’all simply are extremely emotionally invested in being LIV fans and it causes y’all to read things that didn’t happen and lie it appears.
But now what his says is important to you
Link please.
I’ll even reiterate my original point again. What Wesley bryan thinks, doesn’t matter to the tour. Wesley do you agree? Yes, pride, come see my interview where I agree.
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 8:31 am
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:31 am to decomp03
This is pretty rich coming from a journalist who had no idea what was going on behind the scenes in the first place. Kyle Porter is probably getting fed info from PGA sources who are trying to save face. The NLU guys were harping on the same thing about this being terrible for LIV, but they are similarly in bed with PGA sources.
Alan Shipnuck, who seems like he is the journalist most in tune with both sides, seems to think LIV will stick around. He thinks the Saudi's will want to expand it due to LIV being their baby.
And to be honest, no one knows what's going to happen. No one knew that a merger like this was happening. No one knows what the next steps are or who will come out on top. No one knows how regulators are going to treat this.
The PGA Tour has more seats on the table, but the funding is coming from the PIF. Those seats don't mean much if funding dries up. All we know is they are all in bed together at this point.
Alan Shipnuck, who seems like he is the journalist most in tune with both sides, seems to think LIV will stick around. He thinks the Saudi's will want to expand it due to LIV being their baby.
And to be honest, no one knows what's going to happen. No one knew that a merger like this was happening. No one knows what the next steps are or who will come out on top. No one knows how regulators are going to treat this.
The PGA Tour has more seats on the table, but the funding is coming from the PIF. Those seats don't mean much if funding dries up. All we know is they are all in bed together at this point.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:38 am to ell_13
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All that matters. You don’t need another paragraph explaining yourself. You had your reasons. But now what his says is important to you because he changed is tune. We get it. Idk why you get in denial so much.
Do you know anything about reading comprehension and context?
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:43 am to RedHawk
“The Jews weren’t seen as human by the Nazis”
OMG HE SAID JEWS ARENT HUMANS!!!!!
-ell and bonds
OMG HE SAID JEWS ARENT HUMANS!!!!!
-ell and bonds
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:55 am to lsupride87
Well if that’s the strawman you want to use, that’s exactly what you did.
The PGA dismisses the Wesley Bryan’s of the tour… so you did too. Congrats. You’re a Nazi.
The PGA dismisses the Wesley Bryan’s of the tour… so you did too. Congrats. You’re a Nazi.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:55 am to lsupride87
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Ahh, so you will continue to lie. Got it

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and any claim you have to being middle of the road is a joke

Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:58 am to BBONDS25
quote:Correct. Where did iO say nobody cares about Bryan like you claim?
we can all read your posts.
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