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re: High school Senior girl shoots 71
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:56 pm to BigApple
Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:56 pm to BigApple
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Since you made some assumptions, so I will assume she had a bad week while averaging 78
I mean someone has to be the worst on the team. I'm sure every tournament they have someone shooting that or worse given they finished a respectable 5th. Other teams in the conference have girls no doubt shooting worse than that. And go down even further and take conferences that aren't as good no doubt have girls shooting even worse, on scholarship.
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I would also assume a high school girls event is about 10 shots a round easier than a major division 1 event. So that 71 (also assuming the high school girl played decent) becomes more like an 80ish at the college level.
For a good golfer, it's probably not going to be a 10 shot difference. But even if she is shooting 80ish, that's almost as good as their 5th starter and she'd be a true freshmen. Plenty good enough to make the team and more than enough to make other teams and most likely start as a freshman.
I don't think anybody is saying the girl is going to shoot 60 and compete for an NCAA championship, but there is no denying there are schools out there that have girls on scholarship that are on the same level or worse than the girl in question. That's not even counting the 150+ D2 colleges with womens golf. But I don't know, maybe the D2 Gulf South Conference has a roster full of girls shooting 72.
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Posted on 9/20/23 at 1:59 pm to FowlGuy
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We’re in SE Arkansas in which golf is not very popular especially with young girls. She attends a different school so I can’t answer that. But take for instance, my daughters School is roughly 5-600 students 9-12th grade, only 3 girls are on the team and 1 is home schooled. There was only 5 girls total in the district tournament.
Here is a link to the D2 colleges that have golf teams. Just a quick scan and I see Arkansas Tech in Central Arkansas. They even have a part on the website where you can email the coach of the team.
Edit: forgot to add the link
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This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:11 pm to CoachChappy
That’s great man - she loves spending time with you - my older one started at age 4 but didn’t have a lesson till age 6… little one started sooner just because the older one
My best advice is find the best local teacher regardless of price and start with them - better to use your money on high end coaching then better equipment so if there is a budget - get good lessons and get less expensive clubs
Also - my opinion - NEVER NEVER NEVER do group lessons - no way to kill a kids interest in golf more and have them learn less - maybe a clinic to get them interested - but invest in weekly lessons and then work on it
Best coach isn’t necessarily the most expensive one - if you give me your approximate location I’ll try to find a good one for you :)
My best advice is find the best local teacher regardless of price and start with them - better to use your money on high end coaching then better equipment so if there is a budget - get good lessons and get less expensive clubs
Also - my opinion - NEVER NEVER NEVER do group lessons - no way to kill a kids interest in golf more and have them learn less - maybe a clinic to get them interested - but invest in weekly lessons and then work on it
Best coach isn’t necessarily the most expensive one - if you give me your approximate location I’ll try to find a good one for you :)
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:15 pm to BigApple
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Meh. That’s over three rounds so even the worst player in your example averaged 78ish. Since you made some assumptions, so I will assume she had a bad week while averaging 78. I would also assume a high school girls event is about 10 shots a round easier than a major division 1 event. So that 71 (also assuming the high school girl played decent) becomes more like an 80ish at the college level.
I’d agree with what you are saying here - I mean to get a sniff from a good power 5 school a you need to be consistently 70-74 from 6400 yards… if you are 70-74 from 5800 but can’t do it from 6200-6400 then group of 5… what you do below 5800 yards is meaningless to college coaches
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:25 pm to 45RCRoy45
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Also - my opinion - NEVER NEVER NEVER do group lessons - no way to kill a kids interest in golf more and have them learn less - maybe a clinic to get them interested - but invest in weekly lessons and then work on it
I agree 100%
Also, short game is the most important aspect when they are little. Use proper clubs, US kids is probably the best option. The wrong length and weight can cause swing flaws that will be hard to fix later.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:35 pm to SingleMalt1973
On the subject of college golfer scores. I think you guys are focusing on division I. Cause there are a bunch of girls playing in college that shoot in the 90s and 100s.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 3:58 pm to BigApple
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It’s comical to me that people (and there are a lot out there - mostly parents) have zero idea just how good college golfers are.
She's is probably not trying to get into Stanford. There are 100s of DIII schools if you can hit a golf ball you can get a scholarship.
In fact the national champions in Women's Division III 4 days tournament shot a collective +57 to win with the top player shooting a +11 over 4 days. The best player in the tournament shot a +5 and the worst shot a +59.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:07 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Here is a link to the D2 colleges that have golf teams. Just a quick scan and I see Arkansas Tech in Central Arkansas. They even have a part on the website where you can email the coach of the team.
She has talked to all the D2 colleges in Arkansas. She would like to go to UL Monroe. Her mother stated that if you’re not from overseas, you’re likely not getting a scholarship. UA Monticello website has a girl on roster lowest round 102 averaging 111 and haven’t offered this girl a scholarship and her home town is 20 miles south LoL. 4 of the 7 on Roster are from another country.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:16 pm to FowlGuy
Division 2 tournament last year.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:41 pm to FowlGuy
I wonder what the other 750 D2 starters average since +20 gets you 32nd
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:43 pm to SingleMalt1973
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Use proper clubs, US kids is probably the best option. The wrong length and weight can cause swing flaws that will be hard to fix later.
Yes this is absolutely correct - the PING Prodi-G IMHO are the ones to get because they do one free reshaft - which essentially is two sets of high end clubs for the price of one - PING does the recalibrating- so it’s done at a high level
PING Prodi-G
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:46 pm to SingleMalt1973
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On the subject of college golfer scores. I think you guys are focusing on division I. Cause there are a bunch of girls playing in college that shoot in the 90s and 100s
Yes this is absolutely correct - depends what the expectations are but if you aren’t focused on D1 - so many more options
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:03 pm to dek81572
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College coaches don't care what you do in high school district tournaments, they want to see what you do against tough competition on tough golf courses. The boys play from around 6300-6500 yards in high school district matches and that isn't long enough for them to see how they will play in college which is from the tips at around 6800 yards and up.
I played in college and this is spot on.
Id also estimate 80% of college tournaments were over 7000 yards.
It was a massive difference.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:05 pm to 45RCRoy45
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Yes this is absolutely correct - depends what the expectations
Expectations are important, after playing the 9 hole tournaments my kids coach asked what her goals were now she had experience tournament play. So we set some goals that way we are all on the same page. If your coach doesn’t ask about goals then find another one.
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:02 pm to BigApple
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It’s because she probably is not good enough.
If a girl can shoot a 66 from 6000 yards. That’s really all I need to know. She’s good enough for women’s college golf at some level.
There have been articles written about how women’s golf scholarships go unused every year.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:45 pm to PhiTiger1764
Everyone in this thread knows it all yet this young lady doesn’t have any actual offers
Posted on 9/21/23 at 7:52 am to BigApple
I can attest that high-school tournaments are irrelevant. Our coach here in SWLA has built his career on sending his better students to the Houston to compete against stiff competition. The best of these golfers plow through louisiana HS competition and have won state with relative ease. We had a girl when state 4 straight years then go on to play at A&M. She didn't start playing until she was 13. Her game was built on weekly one on one coaching and stiff Houston area competition.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 8:49 am to iwyLSUiwy
This is a D2 tournament that just happened:
LINK
Averaging 75 got you 13th place
Averaging 78 got you 39th place
Averaging 80 got you 56th place
Averaging 85 got you 81st place
Averaging 90 wouldn’t have even put you in last place. There would be 4 golfers behind you.
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Averaging 75 got you 13th place
Averaging 78 got you 39th place
Averaging 80 got you 56th place
Averaging 85 got you 81st place
Averaging 90 wouldn’t have even put you in last place. There would be 4 golfers behind you.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 8:59 am to double d
Hey Double D. Girl's got skills. A young classmate of hers plays with our group periodically. He has skills too, but admits she's at least "tough competition".
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:17 am to BigApple
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Meh. That’s over three rounds so even the worst player in your example averaged 78ish. Since you made some assumptions, so I will assume she had a bad week while averaging 78. I would also assume a high school girls event is about 10 shots a round easier than a major division 1 event. So that 71 (also assuming the high school girl played decent) becomes more like an 80ish at the college level.
Mr Apple couod be a lot nicer than taking the Simon Cowell right - but he is largely correct - it’s all about the distance - most women’s high school golf is rarely over 5500 yards - and the delta in scores for yardages 6000+ will be very large once you add in an extra 500 yards at least…
It’s nearly impossible to gauge the translation from less than 5500 yards to 6000+… but my rule of thumb is you need to be averaging less than 68 from the shorter distances to translate into power 5 D1 golf - but if your sights are set lower on group of 5 D1 or smaller then I’m sure 71 in High School will get looks… and at the end of the day it’s what kind of school does she want to attend - plenty of very nice smaller D1 and D2
I mean look at Colorado - great school and now they are getting tons of attention in all sports just because of football - it always was a great school regardless of the football program… so a lot of times the emphasis adults put on the school is ridiculous- pick a good school for you where you like the coach and will play - still a tremendous accomplishment to play college golf
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