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Golf mental game
Posted on 7/25/17 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 7/25/17 at 7:38 pm
Why one day can I play lights out, and the next suck balls?
Posted on 7/25/17 at 7:46 pm to themasterpater
The same way I do from hole to hole.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 7:51 pm to zach.wlkr
I do not understand. I didn't hit the fairway once today.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 7:54 pm to themasterpater
How often do you play? Do you feel like you have a consistent swing? When you play poorly after a few holes, can you regroup?
Posted on 7/25/17 at 7:58 pm to ell_13
Meh used to for sure. But I'm just getting back into it. Took a lesson, he was great. But he did change my grip and stance, tried to incorporate it into today's round. Probably should have gotten more used to it ahead of time.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 7:59 pm to themasterpater
quote:Well why didn't you say that to start?
But he did change my grip and stance, tried to incorporate it into today's round. Probably should have gotten more used to it ahead of time.
Changing grip is a really big change. It's such a comfort thing to people. Yeah, it'll take time. Good luck!
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:07 pm to ell_13
Yeah it used to be very strong, and now the left thumb goes straight down the shaft. I still think I want it a touch strong, but it does need to be closer to neutral.
Was slice/fading everything today.
Was slice/fading everything today.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:11 pm to themasterpater
it's probably your rhythm. if you don't give yourself enough time to feel the weight of the club and arms in the transition, and everything else is precisely spot on, you're going to hit a bad shot.
the swing isn't just back and through; it's back, gather, weight shift, then swing through. a rushed downswing will produce all types of crazy arse shots. it'll make you think your swing is fundamentally bad when it really isn't.
the swing isn't just back and through; it's back, gather, weight shift, then swing through. a rushed downswing will produce all types of crazy arse shots. it'll make you think your swing is fundamentally bad when it really isn't.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:14 pm to Masterag
Tempo/Rhythm is never a problem if you're in sync with your lower half. We've already established that he's working on changes and it'll take getting used to and work.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:18 pm to themasterpater
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Why one day can I play lights out, and the next suck balls
Lol because golf.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:19 pm to ell_13
My instructor did say I have great tempo and that doesn't need to be worked on. He suggested I may need oversized grips, and that's why I used to put the death grip on it. Basically I had to grip down tight to make sure the club doesn't shift in my swing.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:22 pm to ell_13
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Tempo/Rhythm is never a problem if you're in sync with your lower half.
what does this even mean?
the lower half works intuitively by what the upper half is doing. do you think about your lower half when you're throwing a baseball, shooting a basket, hitting a baseball, skipping a stone on water?
the lower half does what it has to do to accomplish a goal, if that goal is specific, like swinging toward a target with the full weight of your club and arms, and not trying to hit at a ball; your lower body is going to work the way it's supposed to without thinking.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:29 pm to themasterpater
Honestly, I get bored mid round or start just having fun with my partners. It just becomes whacking the ball. Then, I refocus and finish strong.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:29 pm to themasterpater
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My instructor did say I have great tempo and that doesn't need to be worked on
i'm talking about rhythm. tempo is the pace of your swing, rhythm is the timing of your swing. for some reason people use them interchangeable, but they're not at all the same thing.
your rhythm changes from club to club because of the length and weight, your tempo(speed, pace, whatever) will be different based upon the distance you want to hit.
like i said, you've got to feel the weight before you swing through. ever notice how the heavier the object it's easier to swing with a good rhythm? it's because you feel the weight and your body intuitively redirects it.
notice how rory bounces in transition before he swings? he's gathering that weight and preparing to redirect it forward.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:32 pm to Masterag
You talk about "giving enough time" as if he needs to go slower with the takeaway and transition. If that's not what you meant, explain better. My point is that if your lower half is on time, meaning your aren't firing the hips too early/late as you transition, then the tempo doesn't matter. Unless you think he's swinging like the 70 year olds on the G7 commercial and can hardly take the club back?
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the lower half works intuitively by what the upper half is doing
quote:Considering it's where the power/speed comes from, absolutely. And it's what I often focus on when practicing. My problems started with me swaying. And I still work on transitioning my weight to my left side without my right coming forward (toward the ball, not target). I come up on my right toe and my knee comes forward. Makes it hard for me to release properly and get the face centered (heal miss).
do you think about your lower half when you're throwing a baseball
quote:No.
like swinging toward a target with the full weight of your club and arms, and not trying to hit at a ball; your lower body is going to work the way it's supposed to without thinking.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:33 pm to Masterag
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golf is easy if you let it be. or you can keep doing the same shite and never get better. your choice
Thanks coach
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:39 pm to Masterag
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golf is easy if you let it be.
I honestly never realized this. I'm gonna let it be easy next time out and shoot 59
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:46 pm to ell_13
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You talk about "giving enough time" as if he needs to go slower with the takeaway and transition. If that's not what you meant, explain better
i explained precisely what i meant. you have to be mindful in transition, and yes that requires you to slow down and gather that weight to move it forward.
Matsuyama is a prime example of this. butch harmon makes his students take a backswing, pause for a few seconds, then go to engrain that feeling.
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Considering it's where the power/speed comes from, absolutely.
the power/speed comes from your whole body working in sync, not one specific place. your hips intuitively move faster to get out of the way if the object is to hit the ball with more power
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And I still work on transitioning my weight to my left side without my right coming forward (toward the ball, not target). I come up on my right toe and my knee comes forward.
this is because you're focused on trying to hit the ball vs trying to bring the arms and club through toward your target.
i like to see people play better golf, not one up or try to be right. but i've got family members who are/were pro golfers and have played my whole life. so take my info for what it's worth or don't.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:51 pm to malvin
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I honestly never realized this. I'm gonna let it be easy next time out and shoot 59
Sweet, we gon win dat Nickel baw
Posted on 7/25/17 at 8:54 pm to Masterag
quote:And Rahm? What's wrong with his swing?
Matsuyama is a prime example of this
quote:Exactly, which doesn't matter how quickly you takeaway and transition. But a powerful lowerbody that's "in sync" is key. You brought up throwing a baseball, not me. And all of the power/speed comes from the lower body and the mechanics down there. That's not up for debate.
the power/speed comes from your whole body working in sync
quote:You literally have zero idea what I'm focused on when I swing.
this is because you're focused on trying to hit the ball vs trying to bring the arms and club through toward your target.
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i like to see people play better golf, not one up or try to be right. but i've got family members who are/were pro golfers and have played my whole life. so take my info for what it's worth or don't.
My whole original point was that your advice was wrong/pointless because he already let us know that he's working on changes and feeling comfortable with those can take time. Then you go on this crusade, who knows why, even saying something along the lines of "fine! keep doing the same thing!!!" All the guy said was that he's missing fairways and you immediately start giving pointers with no information at all. But congrats on knowing some pros I guess...
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