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CBandits82
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re: Dumas (Greenwood) will be no more...
sucks arse I love Dumas layout


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ReeseWee
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re: Dumas (Greenwood) will be no more...
What LSUgolfman said is correct. They want it to be a 9 hole course with greens like Beaver Creek. With a couple of longer par 4's with one where you have to drive over a lake.


Deereman9009a
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re: Dumas (Greenwood) will be no more...
Donaldsonville


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mikedatyger
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re: Dumas (Greenwood) will be no more...
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With a couple of longer par 4's with one where you have to drive over a lake.

Not sure if you are serious or not.
A short course with island greens or difficult water hazard challenges is not great for golf. As a coach with First Tee of Central Florida, Executive courses are the types of courses novice golfers, First Tee, and Jr. Golf need.
There is a great Par-3 course here, but it is ruined by one Par 3 that is virtually unplayable by a novice golfer. All water carry and no bail-out.
There can be a balance. I have played several amazing Par 3 courses anyone could play, and they were both creative and challenging at the same time.


Nodust
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re: Dumas (Greenwood) will be no more...
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With a couple of longer par 4's with one where you have to drive over a lake.

Not sure if you are serious or not.
A short course with island greens or difficult water hazard challenges is not great for golf. As a coach with First Tee of Central Florida, Executive courses are the types of courses novice golfers, First Tee, and Jr. Golf need.

I agree. There should be no water. Just fun slopes to play on and around. Minimal bunkering also. No need to add expense.

But they will need to have a lake of some sort to get the dirt needed. That's one of the bad things about flatland courses. With a good architect they can make it really fun and not a lost ball course.


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lsu13lsu
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re: Dumas (Greenwood) will be no more...
I may get in trouble for this picture size. But, I am not seeing a course that is full of water that kids cannot learn on.



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doubleb
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re: Dumas (Greenwood) will be no more...
As a beginner I was terrified to play 8, 14 or16 at Webb. Even that small ditch on 6 gave me trouble. The huge trap in front of the third green was a monster. 5 at City Park was a beast. But you buy cheap golf balls, and you keep plugging until you get better. That’s golf. Trial by fire.


lsu13lsu
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re: Dumas (Greenwood) will be no more...
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As a beginner I was terrified to play 8, 14 or16 at Webb. Even that small ditch on 6 gave me trouble. The huge trap in front of the third green was a monster. 5 at City Park was a beast. But you buy cheap golf balls, and you keep plugging until you get better. That’s golf. Trial by fire.


I cannot imagine learning to play golf in Louisiana or Florida and having a course ruined by one hole with water


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mikedatyger
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re: Dumas (Greenwood) will be no more...
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or Florida and having a course ruined by one hole with water

When you take your son out for one of his first golf experiences and he gets to a hole that he CANNOT play. What's the point? Have options. Over the water for better players. Bailout area for novice/beginner golfers. I just feel this specific course failed in its design for that hole.


lsu13lsu
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re: Dumas (Greenwood) will be no more...
Already been there. We try the hole every time. He hits it in water. I bring a few shag balls and he tries and tries. We both look forward to him clearing it. He will and it’ll be awesome. It doesn’t ruin the round or course.

ETA: Pretty sure under 7 years old in a tournament hole can be shortened to 50 yards. You should be able to find a 50 yard distance on MOST any hole without crossing water.
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The Johnny Lawrence
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re: Dumas (Greenwood) will be no more...
I grew up at Shenandoah and the first hole was a short par four that you hit it to a lake and then hit it on the green over the lake. You could lay up around the lake or you could swing for the green. On 2 you hit it over water, but the water ended a few yards from the tee it seemed. I remember being a kid and struggling through there. Now I don't even know that I would even notice the water there. Any water can be a nuisance for a beginner.

I'd like to see no bunkers. A greenside bunker for a good player is better than a tight lie. For a bad player, a tight lie is better than a bunker. Anything that can bring the good player and bad player closer together is a good thing.


lsu13lsu
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re: Dumas (Greenwood) will be no more...
I just don't see Greenwood Park having a bunch of island greens etc and a beginners nightmare.
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doubleb
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Use to be a member there. One was a good joke snd yes it would be a monster hole for a beginner. So would 11, 12 and 13.
On 16 you’d be in everybody’s backyard! Shenandoah was long back in the 70s and early 80s


The Johnny Lawrence
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re: Dumas (Greenwood) will be no more...
I was a kid in the 90s. I didn't venture to the back side very often. Mostly played the front and the 7-8-9 loop with my old man.

Was a great time. I just remember I took a huge number in the father son tournament one year because my dad was confident j could carry the water on 1. I couldn't.


doubleb
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7 was a decent four, but no big issues. 8 was a nice par three with no big problems in front of the green and 9 was a fun dogleg four and you could probably take as shortcut around that severe dogleg. It would be hard to lose your ball. Lol


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