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re: Designated Tour events will have no cut and smaller fields in 2024
Posted on 3/2/23 at 1:44 pm to hehateme2285
Posted on 3/2/23 at 1:44 pm to hehateme2285
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Chase Koepka and James Piot are on the LIV tour. He would never sniff these events because it requires someone to play their way in. Also, guys can fall out. No matter how bad Phil plays, he's not falling off the LIV because he has a guaranteed contract.
To be fair, Phil wouldn’t fall off the PGA Tour either, but other guys could/would fall off it or end up playing fewer events.
But as we’ve said from the beginning, the biggest issue with LIV is not the no cuts. There have been WGCs since the late 90s. It’s the fact that there isn’t a way to qualify for it. I don’t love the no cut events and am not a huge fan of this move, but I’m not sure why it would make any of us have egg on our face
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:23 pm to Dawgsontop34
Apparently this may have been been a huge overreaction.
Looks like only 3 events are going to be added to the No cuts (replacing the old WGCs that already had no cuts).
Looks like only 3 events are going to be added to the No cuts (replacing the old WGCs that already had no cuts).
This post was edited on 3/2/23 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:43 pm to Hou_Lawyer
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The only difference is 18 more holes on the Tour.
We all know that 18 extra holes can make a world of difference.
The big thing that stands out on all of these thread is the fact some are willing to give LIV every benefit of the doubt, but not the PGA Tour.
Posted on 3/2/23 at 10:03 pm to bopper50
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The big thing that stands out on all of these thread is the fact some are willing to give LIV every benefit of the doubt, but not the PGA Tour.
And not Vice versa?
Posted on 3/3/23 at 7:17 am to lsupride87
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Looks like only 3 events are going to be added to the No cuts (replacing the old WGCs that already had no cuts).
It’s a topsy turvy world anymore. LIV fanboys side with the Saudis and Greg Norman and Phil Mickelson of all people. And on the other hand Monohan and the PGA are the devil it seems.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 7:45 am to RedHawk
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It’s a topsy turvy world anymore. LIV fanboys side with the Saudis and Greg Norman and Phil Mickelson of all people. And on the other hand Monohan and the PGA are the devil it seems.
Not hating LIV and also disagreeing with Monohan’s actions does not make anyone a “fan boy”.
When you are reduced to generalizations and labels you know you are losing the legitimate “argument”. I’m not sure why there is even an argument. If you dislike LIV, don’t watch it. Those of us that like to watch golf will. Just like we will watch Korn Ferry. You wait until the stars play on Sunday afternoon and watch. To each his own.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 8:07 am to BBONDS25
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When you are reduced to generalizations and labels you know you are losing the legitimate “argument”.
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You wait until the stars play on Sunday afternoon and watch
The fact you can’t see your fanboy nature is fantastic. Throwing out a generalization after calling them out is peak fanboy posting
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 8:10 am
Posted on 3/3/23 at 9:46 am to RedHawk
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It’s a topsy turvy world anymore. LIV fanboys side with the Saudis and Greg Norman and Phil Mickelson of all people. And on the other hand Monohan and the PGA are the devil it seems.
This comes from trying to politicize sports.
Monahan had the PGA players on the plantation and by the short hairs economically for decades. Everyone on this site knows that they were being beaten out of billions of dollars in prize money, but hey, at least they weren't the Saudis. How hypocritical and political does it get?
Monahan played the political card because he didn't want to pay up. He didn't want to see his charity cash cow destroyed in a twinkle of an eye. The PGA got what it had coming.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:01 pm to bamameister
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Monahan played the political card because he didn't want to pay up. He didn't want to see his charity cash cow destroyed in a twinkle of an eye. The PGA got what it had coming.
The Audacity of a commissioner trying to save his league. He played every card he could. Plus, it is the players tour so save me all of that plantation BS.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:08 pm to RedHawk
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The Audacity of a commissioner trying to save his league. He played every card he could. Plus, it is the players tour so save me all of that plantation BS.
And he saved his league by actually sharing the profits with the working class. And that was and is the only way it will continue to work with the BUSINESS at hand.
Free agency rules!
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:17 pm to bamameister
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Free agency rules!
I guess you could call it free agency without a salary cap. LIV has unlimited spending it seems and isn't afraid to take losses in the hundred of millions. LIV isn't a normal competitor at all. This is something that no American sports league has ever faced before.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:22 pm to RedHawk
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I guess you could call it free agency without a salary cap. LIV has unlimited spending it seems and isn't afraid to take losses in the hundred of millions. LIV isn't a normal competitor at all. This is something that no American sports league has ever faced before.
The PGA said they couldn't do it. And then did it. What's "normal" about that? I still think they are holding out.
MLB contracts are running into the 400 million. The NFL, NHL, and NBA are right there with them.
I would argue that free agency in professional golf is way behind, even as we speak.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:52 pm to bamameister
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The PGA said they couldn't do it. And then did it. What's "normal" about that? I still think they are holding out.
When you say "They" you are talking about the players. It's their tour.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:55 pm to RedHawk
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When you say "They" you are talking about the players. It's their tour.
That's cute. But as Jay Monahan quickly found out that doesn't feed the bulldog. Show me the money. Or else.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 2:08 pm to bamameister
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The PGA said they couldn't do it. And then did it. What's "normal" about that? I still think they are holding out.
MLB contracts are running into the 400 million. The NFL, NHL, and NBA are right there with them.
I would argue that free agency in professional golf is way behind, even as we speak.
why do you care? I still don't understand why anyone gives a shite whether or not the PGA is holding out, fricking over the players, or overcompensating them.
You want to talk about something that has ZERO effect on you? Salaries for people with whom you don't personally compete are it.
So again, why do you care?
Posted on 3/3/23 at 2:16 pm to tigerinthebueche
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why do you care? I still don't understand why anyone gives a shite whether or not the PGA is holding out, fricking over the players, or overcompensating them.
You want to talk about something that has ZERO effect on you? Salaries for people with whom you don't personally compete are it.
So again, why do you care?
Why does the rant have a forum called Golf?
Why did someone over here start this thread?
Why does this thread have so many responses NOT named bamameister?
I'm not really asking you to explain the meaning of life. Just tell me why?
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:17 pm to bopper50
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The Tour was already doing that in the WGC Events, nothing new, just adding more events .
Bull shite. It's never been about LIV, its always been about the money, and the jealous megalomaniac crybabies of the PGA Tour.
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:25 pm to OchoDedos
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and the jealous megalomaniac crybabies of the PGA Tour.
Especially compared to true icons who never complain like Sergio, Ian Poulter, and Bryson.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:28 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Especially compared to true icons who never complain like Sergio, Ian Poulter, and Bryson.
I understand the PGA is a lot better in their listening habits these days. Phil tried to warn them.
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:06 am to bamameister
LIV has inadvertently made the PGA Tour a lot better than it was. The PGA events will now make more sense and the non-designated events will have a fun aspect, seeing guys try to get into the Top 50-70 range.
I do hope some of the LIV guys get invited back to the tour and an agreement gets made. With some of LIV's top management resigning recently, I do wonder about its sustainability. Yes, they have all the money in the world, but are they accomplishing what they set out to accomplish? Feels like they could pull the rug out at any time.
I do hope some of the LIV guys get invited back to the tour and an agreement gets made. With some of LIV's top management resigning recently, I do wonder about its sustainability. Yes, they have all the money in the world, but are they accomplishing what they set out to accomplish? Feels like they could pull the rug out at any time.
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