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re: Designated Tour events will have no cut and smaller fields in 2024
Posted on 3/2/23 at 8:27 am to SoDakHawk
Posted on 3/2/23 at 8:27 am to SoDakHawk
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I still don't like the no-cut thing but think the meritocracy is in place in that there is a pathway into these no-cut events by playing your way in through the multiple-cut events.
Do the math. It just got a lot harder for the guy standing outside the cut line. The guys playing in these elevated events are also getting elevated points and don't forget status points in the eyes of the PGA. That creates bigger gaps and soon many of these golfers will be feeling it.
In response to LIV, they have turned themselves into a star-driven league overnight.
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Posted on 3/2/23 at 8:36 am to ReauxlTide222
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Why the hell are they doing this?
I’m guessing the top guys asked for/wanted it. At this point, the Tour has to do whatever it takes to keep the stars from jumping to LIV.
Posted on 3/2/23 at 8:50 am to ReauxlTide222
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Why the hell are they doing this?
Because that’s what the golfers want. LIV didn’t come up with those rule changes out of nowhere.
And now you have egg on your face as the PGA is becoming exactly what you and your buddies railed against for months
Posted on 3/2/23 at 8:56 am to Tyga Woods
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I’m guessing the top guys asked for/wanted it. At this point, the Tour has to do whatever it takes to keep the stars from jumping to LIV.
Bingo. The changes that LIV is bringing upon the PGA to keep their players isn't good for the game IMO.
Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:06 am to The Pirate King
quote:This makes zero sense
And now you have egg on your face as the PGA is becoming exactly what you and your buddies railed against for months
“I don’t like LIV. It’s going to bring about negative changes for the fans”
Negative changes then happen
“lol you were dead right. Haha at you”
LIV being an entity that has unlimited cash not tied to fan support meant the players had all leverage to make changes for themselves. That was the entire point of people that were “angry”.
Usually when a competitor comes along, it’s a great thing for fans. Becasue the competitor needs fan support to survive. That’s the goal. So now you have two entities fighting for fans and making changes around that principle.
But that is the exact opposite here. This new competitor has zero need for profit or fan support. The leverage instead shifts to the players and what they want
This post was edited on 3/2/23 at 9:12 am
Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:15 am to lsupride87
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This makes zero sense
“I don’t like LIV. It’s going to bring about negative changes for the fans”
Negative changes then happen
“lol you were dead right. Haha at you”
LIV being an entity that has unlimited cash not tied to fan support meant the players had all leverage to make changes for themselves. That was the entire point of people that were “angry”.
Usually when a competitor comes along, it’s a great thing for fans. Becasue the competitor needs fan support to survive. That’s the goal. So now you have two entities fighting for fans and making changes around that principle.
But that is the exact opposite here. This new competitor has zero need for profit or fan support. The leverage instead shifts to the players and what they want
Nailed everything except you said the power shifts to the players. Not all players, only the players that the PGA doesn't want to lose to LIV. This is a near sighted move and something that will hurt the game in the long run IMO.
Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:21 am to RedHawk
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Nailed everything except you said the power shifts to the players. Not all players, only the players that the PGA doesn't want to lose to LIV. This is a near sighted move and something that will hurt the game in the long run IMO.
And in this case, these stars are numerically very much the minority. So much for the working man's PGA.
Monahan has a presser this Tuesday, a real Q & A with the guys. It's going to be interesting watching him do the math.
Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:25 am to RedHawk
The designated events made sense, it helped the top players and also worked for the fans. Yes it had a negative effect on the cities and sponsors for the smaller events, but not every change is perfect for everyone.
This new move is purely for the top money players and it sucks.
This new move is purely for the top money players and it sucks.
Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:25 am to bamameister
There are 45 events on tour. There are 13 elevated not including majors. Still plenty of opportunity out there for the "working man".
Posted on 3/2/23 at 9:54 am to TDTOM
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Still plenty of opportunity out there for the "working man".
But not near as much as before especially if they are trying to make a name for themselves against top competition. Going to be harder for them to do that going forward.
Posted on 3/2/23 at 10:03 am to RedHawk
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But not near as much as before especially if they are trying to make a name for themselves against top competition. Going to be harder for them to do that going forward.
If they do well enough in the non-designated events to get into the top 50 in FedEx points by the end of the season they’ll be eligible to play in designated events the following year. Seems fair to me
Posted on 3/2/23 at 10:06 am to Tyga Woods
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If they do well enough in the non-designated events to get into the top 50 in FedEx points by the end of the season they’ll be eligible to play in designated events the following year. Seems fair to me
I just don't care for no cut events. I don't want to watch a big name that is 15 shots back of the lead on Sunday. Would rather watch a no name that is in contention as it usually makes for an interesting story. Cinderella stories are always great in sports and I feel the PGA just took a huge step backwards in that regard.
Posted on 3/2/23 at 10:08 am to RedHawk
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I don't want to watch a big name that is 15 shots back of the lead on Sunday.
This isn't about you. It is about making the sponsors happy, thus being able to charge more.
This post was edited on 3/2/23 at 10:19 am
Posted on 3/2/23 at 10:15 am to RedHawk
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I don't want to watch a big name that is 15 shots back of the lead on Sunday.
They don’t show those guys anyway, unless it’s Tiger.
Posted on 3/2/23 at 10:49 am to Tyga Woods
The NLU guys had Malnati on and he made a good point about the non-designated events. If it was 120 players for the designated events, a lot of the 120 would stop playing standard events. But with a field size of 70-80, players 80-120 will go to the standard events to try and play their way into the designated events.
There are a lot of moving parts and I like the thought of guys playing their way into the designated events. I just don't know how this system would impact Pierson Coody (this year) or Will Zalatoris (a couple years ago). Guys who have no business being on the KFT, but how do they slowly rise to the designated events. Is it going to be a couple of years before they can make it just because of how it is set up.
There are a lot of moving parts and I like the thought of guys playing their way into the designated events. I just don't know how this system would impact Pierson Coody (this year) or Will Zalatoris (a couple years ago). Guys who have no business being on the KFT, but how do they slowly rise to the designated events. Is it going to be a couple of years before they can make it just because of how it is set up.
Posted on 3/2/23 at 12:01 pm to The Johnny Lawrence
It sounds like these events will no longer be mandatory.
This post was edited on 3/2/23 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 3/2/23 at 12:44 pm to The Johnny Lawrence
Doesn’t seem like anything is set in stone yet, but it explains in good detail how a player can qualify for the “designated” events.
Win a tournament on the PGA tour during the season & you’re in the designated events, for example.
So looking at this year - Adam Svensson & Chris Kirk would be eligible for The Players & other designated events even though they weren’t originally eligible.
& correct, the designated events will no longer be mandatory next season.
Win a tournament on the PGA tour during the season & you’re in the designated events, for example.
So looking at this year - Adam Svensson & Chris Kirk would be eligible for The Players & other designated events even though they weren’t originally eligible.
& correct, the designated events will no longer be mandatory next season.
This post was edited on 3/2/23 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 3/2/23 at 12:49 pm to The Pirate King
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And now you have egg on your face as the PGA is becoming exactly what you and your buddies railed against for months
Except for the fact that there are explicit ways to qualify for these events, and there is still likely to be a cut at the Genesis and Memorial.
Chase Koepka and James Piot are on the LIV tour. He would never sniff these events because it requires someone to play their way in. Also, guys can fall out. No matter how bad Phil plays, he's not falling off the LIV because he has a guaranteed contract.
Posted on 3/2/23 at 1:30 pm to The Pirate King
quote:Why does this make me have egg on my face?
And now you have egg on your face as the PGA is becoming exactly what you and your buddies railed against for months
Posted on 3/2/23 at 1:36 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Why does this make me have egg on my face?
It doesn't.
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