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Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:27 pm to lsupride87
So Trackman is lying then. Point stands.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:30 pm to ell_13
I would venture to say they aren’t lying. But they are gathering data that likely includes 3w and driving irons
I don’t think they are parsing 100,000 plus swings and removing those clubs from holes they have deemed as driver holes
I don’t think they are parsing 100,000 plus swings and removing those clubs from holes they have deemed as driver holes
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:39 pm to lsupride87
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I have a good idea on how averages work. If the 81st guy on tour is averaging around 300 carry with the Driver, the chart in the op is not accurate
81st is 284
the data is on the internet for the whole world to see
https://www.pgatour.com/stats/detail/02409
Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:42 pm to MrSpock
Through the Zurich Classic of New Orleans, Apr 28
TOUR AVERAGE
282.5

TOUR AVERAGE
282.5

Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:43 pm to lsupride87
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I would venture to say they aren’t lying. But they are gathering data that likely includes 3w and driving irons
I don’t think they are parsing 100,000 plus swings and removing those clubs from holes they have deemed as driver holes
Well you would be wrong. You should check an verify the data you post.
https://www.trackman.com/blog/golf/introducing-updated-tour-averages
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Averages are based on data from competition as well as on the range.
There are multiple processes in place to eliminate shots hit with a non-driver during competition.
There could be a small number of non-driver shots in the dataset (less than 0.5 percent).
Official stat holes are picked going in opposite directions to reduce any effects from wind.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:46 pm to MrSpock
Pride will still come in here pretending like the data doesn’t match reality because he saw a few drives go over 300 yards on TV.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:50 pm to MrSpock
quote:sorry. I was looking at last year where Scottie was 81st
81st is 284 the data is on the internet for the whole world to see
He is 75th this year at 285 on the dot. Find me videos on Scottie on trackman ever carrying it 285 with driver.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:51 pm to lsupride87
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Find me videos on Scottie on trackman ever carrying it 285 with driver.

Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:52 pm to ell_13
Guys asks a question, people kindly show him the data and how it is obtained. Then he chooses to ignore it because he saw Uncle Rico carry his drive over the mountain that one time.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:57 pm to GoldenD
Videos of Scottie on trackman
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There is no fricking way in hell Scottie averages 285.1 with driver only carry based on range and course data. No way
They have Rory at 297 average carry. I’m sorry if you accept that as accurate you are crazy
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There is no fricking way in hell Scottie averages 285.1 with driver only carry based on range and course data. No way
They have Rory at 297 average carry. I’m sorry if you accept that as accurate you are crazy
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:02 pm to lsupride87
You have proven time and time again that you don’t understand average carry.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:03 pm to ell_13
You think when Rory McElroy hits a driver on the range and course for an entire year he averages 297 carry?
There is absolutely no possible way that is correct.
There is absolutely no possible way that is correct.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:07 pm to lsupride87
Simply because you’re ignorant to how things work doesn’t mean they’re impossible. It just means you don’t get it. Conditions matter. Cold, into wind, uphill can all lead to shorter drives. This isn’t Trackman doing adjustments with range balls. It’s actual values.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:08 pm to lsupride87
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You think when Rory McElroy hits a driver on the range and course for an entire year he averages 297 carry?
There is absolutely no possible way that is correct.
You think every time a tour pro steps to the tee box they are swinging out of their shoes like a rangebro ?
Babycut, squeezer, fairway finder? Do those terms mean anything to you?
You are conflating capability and reality.
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:09 pm to ell_13
But for every cold day with wind against there is a warm day with wind at your back….
For every uphill shot there is a downhill shot…
It evens out, that’s how averages work. Over a course of a year those conditions even out
You are saying you truly think Rory averages 297 carry with driver in basically zero wind on 75 degree day perfectly flat. I say absolutely no way
For every uphill shot there is a downhill shot…
It evens out, that’s how averages work. Over a course of a year those conditions even out
You are saying you truly think Rory averages 297 carry with driver in basically zero wind on 75 degree day perfectly flat. I say absolutely no way
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:13 pm to lsupride87
quote:Not true. We haven’t hit the warm months yet for this season. Averages will go up this summer. Courses built around hills don’t use nearly as many Par 4s and 5s going downhill as they do par 3s. There are no real uphill par 3s. Places on the coast will often face par 4s and 5s into the prevailing wind as a way to make the conditions more difficult for these guys. So no… it doesn’t “even out”
But for every cold day with wind against there is a warm day with wind at your back…. For every uphill shot there is a downhill shot…
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:16 pm to lsupride87
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You are saying you truly think Rory averages 297 carry with driver in basically zero wind on 75 degree day perfectly flat. I say absolutely no way
Yeah its all a conspiracy
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Each golf course is mapped prior to the event so a digital image of each hole is used as background information in order to calculate exact locations and distances between any two coordinates (e.g. tee box and the player’s first shot or the shot location and the location of the hole).
When a ball is hit, ShotLink sensors (radar, camera, and/or lasers) capture the flight and resting location for every shot hit by every player. This data is then made available within seconds to constituents all around the world.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:17 pm to hehateme2285
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Rory’s fairway finder carries 297 LINK

Exactly. Telling me that guy averages 297 carry is insane
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