re: WoW

I remember trying to clear a camp at about level 40 in Arathi Highlands. It took me forever but there was a sense of accomplishment when I finally got through it. Not to mention the PvP zergfest that was Southshore. Amazing stuff back then.

There is a pretty obvious rift between classic and anti classic supporters. It’s pretty wild. Most people are either stoked for it or don’t care for it at all.

My excitement for classic has calmed down a tad after playing this recent patch on retail wow. It’s actually pretty good.

With that being said, classic wow makes your achievements much more rewarding because they are just harder to earn. From PVP, to raiding, to simply clearing a large camp of mobs. In retail wow I basically pop my cooldowns and can mow down 4-5 mobs without even being close to dying. That is leveling and max level. You try to do that in classic (while leveling anyway) it just doesn’t happen. It makes you think about fights (or how to avoid them) to get what you need done.

Professions mean something in classic, I honestly couldn’t care less about my professions in BFA. I don’t think I’ve crafted anything that I’ve used. It hasn’t been needed.

I will give retail the edge in playstyle for classes though. Mage is a pretty good example. Although they do a ton of damage late in the game, they are pretty boring to play in a raid setting. Just looking at the icy veins class guides for classic compared to BFA is pretty funny 1-2 spell rotations vs four, five and six spell rotations or priorities.

I’m glad classic is being implemented and I will play it a lot. I’m hopeful it makes the current retail game better with how popular and successful classic is going to be, because I think it will be pretty big.

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here is a pretty obvious rift between classic and anti classic supporters. It’s pretty wild. Most people are either stoked for it or don’t care for it at all.

My excitement for classic has calmed down a tad after playing this recent patch on retail wow. It’s actually pretty good.

With that being said, classic wow makes your achievements much more rewarding because they are just harder to earn. From PVP, to raiding,

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I just dont think it will be that big and I think blizzard would profit more from putting more into the retail game and working on an expansion that actually fixes the current problems with WoW.

Mythic level raiding is still an extremely hard accomplishment that most people havent done. PVP is basically the same as back then.

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working on an expansion that actually fixes the current problems with WoW.

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What makes you think the current dev team is even capable of this?

Preach and Asmongold hit the nail on the head when they said "They've designed modern WoW for people who don't want to play WoW."

Which is why 10 million people have left. It's barely an MMORPG now. It's closer to Diablo than WoW.

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Cool play a different spec.

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Ok, switch to Frost and spam Frostbolt until you get procs so you can press that button once then go back to spamming Frostbolt.

Classic wow just presses frostbolt.

If you think classic wow is going to beat modern wow its not in the classic gameplay. Modern WoW rotations are vastly more entertaining than classic.

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Modern WoW rotations are vastly more entertaining than classic.

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You're hung up on rotations but don't mention the existence of catch-up mechanics and horrible gear progression systems that trivialize the RPG aspect of the game. Slower combat is worth the tradeoff if the game actually becomes an RPG again.

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If you think classic wow draws in what it drew in at launch you are crazy.

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I don't think 5 million people are going to flock to classic, no. But it wouldn't surprise me at all if the numbers rivaled retail within 6 months of release.


And I'll have to say, the combat didn't bother me at all playing the beta. I actually enjoyed getting to micro-manage the combat as a warrior. Having things like mana conservation to worry about was also refreshing as a mage. Different strokes for different folks. You say it's a different era but people young and old still flock to OSRS for whatever reason.

Q1 '05- 1.5 - (Technically, WOW launched in November 2004, though not every country had it.)
Q2 '05- 3.5
Q3 '05- 4
Q4 '05- 5.5
Q1 '06- 6 - (Gates of AQ started around this time. Notice the numbers are a steady increase- there was a lot of content released throughout the year.)
Q2 '06- 6.5

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WoW is so successful

Bleeding out more players every new expansion is success? We're at the lowest sub count in WoW's history. 

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You do realize that the sub numbers jump up a few million with every expansion drop. How many games from 2004 in the mmorpg genre are still standing? Much less still the most popular. Rag on it all you want but there's a reason it still draws people.

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So anybody who has been gone can rejoin and play with their friends.

This is such a myth. Back then the players that kept playing would just help their friends coming back do their content

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This is literally one of the main complaints about several other MMOs. Everybody wants to play the current stuff with everybody else. Nobody wants to play stuff that nobody else is doing. That's why the zones feel dead.