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re: Will this be the last generation of Microsoft consoles?
Posted on 6/16/13 at 10:08 am to sbr2
Posted on 6/16/13 at 10:08 am to sbr2
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A lot of us have been using steam for a while so digital distribution isn't that new to us. Phasing out physical disk sales was bound to happen sooner or later. If you don't want in, buy PS4 and keep raging against the machine.
Seriously. Anyone thinking the Xbox One is the creation of Satan himself should look at what Steam is able to do now. You can't share, rent, or trade in games on Steam and they can now afford to offer games at super discounted prices. Just watch the deals that come up in the summer sale.
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Posted on 6/16/13 at 10:12 am to tehchampion140
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Seriously. Anyone thinking the Xbox One is the creation of Satan himself should look at what Steam is able to do now. You can't share, rent, or trade in games on Steam and they can now afford to offer games at super discounted prices. Just watch the deals that come up in the summer sale.
Screw you and your common sense
Posted on 6/16/13 at 10:23 am to tehchampion140
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Phasing out physical disk sales was bound to happen sooner or later.
that has nothing to do with the discussion.
when you download a game the digital write to your hard drive is still your property.
And I don't play Steam either for this exact reason.
The whole concept spits in the face of property law and is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 10:25 am to Draconian Sanctions
Again, it is exactly what steam is and millions of people love and support steam. No ones suing them. You just clearly don't know shite and want to flame the console.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 10:26 am to Aristotle
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You just clearly don't know shite
LSU Law Class of 2012 right here, when did you graduate?
This post was edited on 6/16/13 at 10:27 am
Posted on 6/16/13 at 10:37 am to Draconian Sanctions
Actually, I'll be going to law school in the next couple years after undergrad. I don't need the degree to know its not illegal when another company has set a precedent and been offering an extremely similar service for years with no problem.
But hey, if you want to get legal about it, I'll figure it out from my dad who's been practicing law for the last 20 years.
But hey, if you want to get legal about it, I'll figure it out from my dad who's been practicing law for the last 20 years.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 10:38 am to Aristotle
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I don't need the degree to know its not illegal when another company has set a precedent and been offering an extremely similar service for years with no problem.
oh wow
Posted on 6/16/13 at 10:44 am to tehchampion140
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Seriously. Anyone thinking the Xbox One is the creation of Satan himself should look at what Steam is able to do now. You can't share, rent, or trade in games on Steam and they can now afford to offer games at super discounted prices. Just watch the deals that come up in the summer sale.
and alot of that was used to combat pirating games, MS has a shite ton of measure in place to do that now and who knows if they will lower the price of games to be low enough to knock the used game market out
Posted on 6/16/13 at 10:49 am to Draconian Sanctions
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LSU Law Class of 2012 right here, when did you graduate?
You won't answer this just like you didn't the other day when you boasted about being in one of the most saturated professions on the face of the earth but what's your specific area of practice?
Is it copyright and intellectual property laws?
Posted on 6/16/13 at 10:52 am to StraightCashHomey21
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and alot of that was used to combat pirating games, MS has a shite ton of measure in place to do that now and who knows if they will lower the price of games to be low enough to knock the used game market out
That is true, but if all these measures to eliminate used games are effective then you would stand to believe that they would make more off each game, right? They could afford to drop prices, resulting in even more sales to customers who didn't want to pay full price. It's a good business model that's working exceptionally well on steam.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 10:55 am to stout
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You won't answer this just like you didn't the other day
You're right, I won't answer that. I am under no obligation to reveal personal details to you or anybody else on here.
This post was edited on 6/16/13 at 10:56 am
Posted on 6/16/13 at 10:55 am to tehchampion140
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that's working exceptionally well on steam.
It's stilly but everyone that is against this for various reason the only argument they have is that MS is evil and will not lower the prices.
That's the best excuse they can come up with like that wouldn't draw even more people towards steam if they were playing digital content anyway. They are going to go where they can get the best deals no matter the medium.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:00 am to Draconian Sanctions
Well then quit throwing around that you're an attorney in this case unless you are actively practicing in copyright and intellectual property laws.
You could be a fricking divorce attorney for all we know and that doesn't qualify you for advice in this area.
That would be like a Dentist saying he can do a heart transplant because he has the title Dr by his name.
You could be a fricking divorce attorney for all we know and that doesn't qualify you for advice in this area.
That would be like a Dentist saying he can do a heart transplant because he has the title Dr by his name.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:03 am to stout
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Well then quit throwing around that you're an attorney in this case unless you are actively practicing in copyright and intellectual property laws.
you do realize that in order to pass the bar you have to have knowledge about a wide variety of legal concepts, right?
It doesn't take the country's preeminent property lawyer to see that there are some potential legal pitfalls to a company unilaterally deciding that you don't own their product after purchase.
And I sure as shite know more about it than you do. You even thinking that this is about copyright or intellectual property law shows your ignorance.
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That would be like a Dentist saying he can do a heart transplant because he has the title Dr by his name.
Dentists go to a COMPLETELY different school
This post was edited on 6/16/13 at 11:06 am
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:03 am to Draconian Sanctions
Of course not. They more than likely already have an xboxtwo dev team working on the next gen as we speak.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:06 am to Draconian Sanctions
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It doesn't take the country's preeminent property lawyer to see that there are some potential legal pitfalls to a company unilaterally deciding that you don't own their product after purchase.
Right because when Xbox writes their ToS they hire Draconian Sanctions LSU Law Class of 2012 Divorce Attorney to draft it since he passed the bar and knows a little about about a lot.
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And I sure as shite know more about it than you do.
And the attorneys that write their ToS know a shite ton more about it than you ever will.
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:09 am to stout
You are completely out of your depth and making ignorant statement after ignorant statement. I'd suggest you just move on now rather than clumsily trying to personally attack me with verbage you know nothing about.
I mean I know TD has a lot of people who like to spout off about things they don't know anything about but you're taking it to a whole new level right now.
Also here's another tip: just because a company puts something in their TOS that doesn't make it the law of the land
I mean I know TD has a lot of people who like to spout off about things they don't know anything about but you're taking it to a whole new level right now.
Also here's another tip: just because a company puts something in their TOS that doesn't make it the law of the land
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:14 am to Draconian Sanctions
I would ask me to leave too if I were in your shoes and getting exposed like you are.
You spout off this nonsense and you have just barely passed the bar.
There are large firms in the USA that are paid very well to exploit things like the MS ToS through class action. Do you not think if Steam (the current working model of this) as well as iTunes for music DRM were so open to the legal pitfalls you speak of that none of these firms would be activley pursuing it?
You spout off this nonsense and you have just barely passed the bar.
There are large firms in the USA that are paid very well to exploit things like the MS ToS through class action. Do you not think if Steam (the current working model of this) as well as iTunes for music DRM were so open to the legal pitfalls you speak of that none of these firms would be activley pursuing it?
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:16 am to tehchampion140
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That is true, but if all these measures to eliminate used games are effective then you would stand to believe that they would make more off each game, right? They could afford to drop prices, resulting in even more sales to customers who didn't want to pay full price. It's a good business model that's working exceptionally well on steam.
do you really trust MS at this time
there are so many un answered questions if they just came out and said we are doing this so in the long run we lower the price of games id already would have pre-orderd an Xbox but as it stands i have no faith in them to lower the prices with the way they have presented xbox1
Posted on 6/16/13 at 11:20 am to stout
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I would ask me to leave too if I were in your shoes and getting exposed like you are.
what quote:
You spout off this nonsense and you have just barely passed the bar.
How would you know how I did?
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Do you not think if Steam (the current working model of this) as well as iTunes for music DRM were so open to the legal pitfalls you speak of that none of these firms would be activley pursuing it?
Of course. That's why they pay their lawyers so much for. Legal pitfalls exist everywhere but do you really think that stops companies from doing shady shite? I mean really???
I never said that if it actually went to court that they would just roll over and say "frick it, you win". And you're right they have really smart lawyers who make careers out of expanding corporate protections at the expense of the consumer. That doesn't mean it's right. Do you agree with every single SCOTUS decision that comes out?
You trying to act like I have no argument when you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about is pretty incredible but par for the course so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
This post was edited on 6/16/13 at 11:22 am
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