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re: Whats the big deal about ratios?

Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by yeanheard
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:25 pm to
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stop using the fact that mw2 is popular and played by normal cool guys to defend the fact that you are some loser who sits around and plays shite like WOW


Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155308 posts
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:26 pm to
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The much-lauded RPG-like system

Right. RPG-like...meaning it's not an MMORPG, but its leveling system is similar (as is any game with any kind of leveling system).
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So Im not really sure who taught you to google.

You said this:
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Ok go google MMORPG and Infinity Ward

So you know I did? I copied "MMORPG and Infinity Ward" and pasted it into google.

Then, I quickly proved this:
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IM NOT CALLING IT A MMORPG because I think it is (which I am a software developer btw) THE GAMES developers call it a MMORPG and designed it with that intent into the game. Thats what Im saying. Maybe you dont think it is but they certainly do.

...to be incorrect, citing multiple links from the very search you told me to perform.

Don't get smart.
Posted by ThePostman
Member since Sep 2009
2049 posts
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:26 pm to
Did you totally miss the definition of RPG that said not one thing about levelling up?

The key word in RPG is ROLEPLAYING.

So please, tell me. What game is there that can't somehow be misconstrued into an RPG by saying that you're PLAYING as someone or another ROLE?


Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155308 posts
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:27 pm to
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If you read a couple of pages back I was talking about not liking the RPG aspects of the game. I was instantly told that MW2 had zero RPG aspects to it.

No, you weren't.

You called it an MMORPG. And you were wrong. And still are.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:28 pm to
Did this thread blow up because someone called MW2 a MMORPG?
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155308 posts
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:28 pm to
Looks like I was right in my assuptions of this:
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I know you're not this stupid.*


*Not true at all, and I fear I have given you too much credit. You may very well be this stupid..
Posted by Antiheroaz
may the odds be ever in your favor.
Member since Dec 2009
19927 posts
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:28 pm to
This thread is all over the dam place. Im lost. whats an Rpd again?I hate the RPG,especially when peeps run with em and a knife. Isnt it a Light machine gun. And when has Broc Larsen played mw2.Isnt that MMA? somebody stop the ride it I want to get off
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155308 posts
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:29 pm to
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Did this thread blow up because someone called MW2 a MMORPG?

Pretty much.

And it's managed to kill the last 45 minutes or so I had until I left. So I'm pleased.
Posted by ThePostman
Member since Sep 2009
2049 posts
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:29 pm to
If you read multiple pages back, you were complaining about k:d ratios being made out to be too big of a deal.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:29 pm to
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You called it an MMORPG


No I didnt.. The developers layed that claim in their twitter pages.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155308 posts
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:32 pm to
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If you read multiple pages back, you were complaining about k:d ratios being made out to be too big of a deal.

Who is that to? Cuz I wasn't complaining about k/d at all. I was defending it, actually.
Posted by Antiheroaz
may the odds be ever in your favor.
Member since Dec 2009
19927 posts
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:32 pm to
Catman88
I get it now. HOly Frick! This is why you have 17k post.
You are like the message board energizer bunny

ETA: 95k+cokes(sp?) The post king !!!
This post was edited on 1/12/10 at 4:36 pm
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:33 pm to
Lets rehash..

I said I did not like the RPG features put into MW2 (THAT DID NOT EXIST IN SAY COD Unitied Offensive)

You level up and prestige and have little games that you have to do while playing the game in order to get more points to......LEVEL UP.. What do you get by playing these behind the scene games? Better weapon upgrades to add to your current weapons. HOW CANT YOU SEE THAT THIS WORKS LIKE ANY RPG game on the market???

And NO its not in every game.. COD United Offense had none of it for one example in the same series.
Posted by ThePostman
Member since Sep 2009
2049 posts
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:33 pm to
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Who is that to? Cuz I wasn't complaining about k/d at all. I was defending it, actually.


Sorry if I replied to you. I didn't feel like scrolling up. It was to the OP.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:34 pm to
You are finally seeing that this is one big effort to make the day fly by huh??

Its a slow day.. Causing controversy makes it go by quicker..
This post was edited on 1/12/10 at 4:36 pm
Posted by ThePostman
Member since Sep 2009
2049 posts
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:36 pm to
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No Im talking about the built in MMORPG of MW2. The designers did it on purpose. The whole level up and prestige thing along with equiping weapons creating your class etc... This doesnt seem a little WoW to some of you?? Hell they even set the top levels the same as what WoW used to be.


Posted by CocomoLSU
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Member since Feb 2004
155308 posts
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:37 pm to
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You called it an MMORPG

No I didnt.. The developers layed that claim in their twitter pages.

You said that they built RPG/MMORPG into this game:
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I think its a good game not great but I know people that put it to the side and play World at War instead. Now I havent played that game but Im not a fan of the basic RPG they built into this game. It seems like they built in a bit of WoW into the game. And it sucks people in the same way. Not to say that both are not great games but they are built to feed on the addictive qualities on the simulated success.

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You dont see that MW2 has a built in RPG system?

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No Im talking about the built in MMORPG of MW2.

The designers did it on purpose. The whole level up and prestige thing along with equiping weapons creating your class etc... This doesnt seem a little WoW to some of you?? Hell they even set the top levels the same as what WoW used to be. Its a brilliant model to make $$$$ if you ask me but Im not a fan of how it takes over your life.

And you are wrong.

You also later said this:
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You do know that MW2 is considered a MMORPG by the developers right?

Which is also wrong, backed up even by the link and quote that YOU, yourself, posted.

They said that they used an RPG-like leveling idea. Which is true of basically any game that allows you to level up. Nowhere does anyone say that this game is a MMORPG/RPG. And the only reason it vaguely fits into the definition of "RPG" is because, like every other single video game in history, you are controlling someone/something on the screen and using controls to make it perform acts. So the only way you're even half-correct is by saying that every video game ever made is an RPG. And we all know (even you, I just know it..) that MW2 is nothing like an RPG/MMORPG, as they are generally defined.

I can't make it any simpler. And now I'm leaving for the day.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:39 pm to
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No Im talking about the built in MMORPG of MW2. The designers did it on purpose.


Yep like I said.. The designers said it.. I didnt see too much of it when I first started playing it until I read the designers blogs and pages on it and how they incorporated certain RPG systems for better online game play.

My point was that those aspects they included I did not care for and it makes it more like WoW and less like COD UO which I really liked and the reason I decided to buy this game.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/12/10 at 4:41 pm to
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You said that they built RPG/MMORPG into this game:


And I will 100% stand by that.. They DID.. the developers dont hide it.. Send a letter to them if you want.. Is the game a full on MMORPG no because there is a first person shooter first aspect to the game. Did the designers throw in an RPG system to the game to make online play more enjoyable? Yes they did.. At least that was their intent. I dont find the RPG side of the game too great.


BTW

Basic RPG concept = game where you have to play and earn experience to open new items and level up with new experience comes new toys.

In that sense explain how COD United Offensive reveals RPG aspects?

Explain how MW2 does not have this built in?

Both games are in the same series and have same concepts.. one has an RPG system built in the other does not.

This post was edited on 1/12/10 at 5:00 pm
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