re: The Witcher 3 is the greatest game of this generation

I liked the challenge of running the Gwent gauntlet at the party while on a date with the medic chick

you get 1 chance to win without save scumming.

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I liked the challenge of running the Gwent gauntlet at the party while on a date with the medic chick

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Completely missed that my first playthrough. I was so pissed when I saw the quest fail.

trust me. do it. Gwent is a lot of fun. you may not think so at first , but then you snow-frick someone's entire battle horned siege line late in round 3 and win some amazing card and realize how much fun it is

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so "offers more" = better game? are games like Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Kingdom Come, etc better as well? they have lots of stuff to do too.

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The presentation in Elder Scrolls/Fallout is nowhere near that of Witcher 3, but you're on the right track with the gameplay elements. It's also a good example of what separates great games and generational bests, IMO. Witcher 3 was able to give the depth and freedom of an Elder Scrolls/Fallout while not sacrificing things like cutscenes, voice acting, plot development, etc. That's the bulk of my point. You are absolutely correct in terms of enjoyment being subjective. When I speak in terms of "Greatest game of X", I almost always approach it from the perspective of what game delivered the most well-executed content at a high quality. Plus I fricking LOVE little shite like Geralt's beard growing. Stuff like that in games makes me cream my damn pants. I got a mod for Skyrim specifically just to add footprints in the snow.

I realize the way I type is very matter of fact and may come off as rather aggressive when stating a side. I need to work on that.

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I realize the way I type is very matter of fact and may come off as rather aggressive when stating a side.

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I'm utterly awful with this. you are fine

good talk, just different sides of the aisle on this one. Witcher is still an easy 5/5 game for me and is 100% in the discussion for generational supremacy.

If by "generation" we mean console eras, TLOU is technically last generation isn't it? It was a PS3 game, granted late PS3 but still.

It's a pretty arbitrary distinction though, especially with PC games which may or may not be on consoles.

I still think it's a useful way to divide games up though for discussion and categorization.

I actually thought it was kinda boring after a few hours

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There is no single greatest game of any generation. There has to be single AND a multi player greatest.

Single player: I guess it could be Witcher 3
Multiplayer: Not really sure about greatest but Fortnite has been the most popular but it's arse right now. I don't remember a COD being good in this gen. PUBG was good. Apex is dying due to content. Destiny was riddled with issues about content.

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Yeah, padding and unnecessary filler aren’t for me. I prefer meaningful engagement, not collecting 20 cactuses and 15 squirrel tails to craft a new pouch. “Linear” was a slur for years (and apparently still is to you) but people are starting to come around and realize how bland and generic most open world affairs are

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I JUST had a conversation with a buddy of mine about this and completely agree. There is such a thing as too open. Skyrim, for all of the freedom it gave modders and players in general, had very bland storytelling because of the nature of the game.

I think the Zelda games outside of BotW are the perfect balance of "open world" and linear story progression. Yes, even BotW gets knocked for this. I love BotW but over time I realized how much the story of Link's adventure suffered due to restrictions in writing and storytelling due to its "do anything whenever" design. I prefer the design of Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess.