re: The Last of Us 2 story leaked

I think I may be more upset that Joel gets pwnt by a woman than I would be if Joel gets pwnt by a pre-op.


It’s just shite writing either way.

I’d agree if we were talking final fantasy character models and cloud’s ability to carry a 700 pound sword, but TLOU, despite its zombie elements, takes place in the modern world as we know it where physics, science and nutrition almost certainly my perfectly mimics that which exists in our own reality.

I have constantly complained about that, especially in the division series.

Lol thankfully I haven’t played COD since black ops.

I get your point though.

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Still a weak argument. In any game where it involves gun play, you can take multiple shots, still run around as if nothing has happened, and then after a health bar runs out, THEN you fall to the ground.

Nobody ever complains about that lack of realism, do they?

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Separate concepts/parts of gaming.

There is an inherent separation between the two parts of games like The Last of Us, Uncharted, etc.

They are story driven games and the gameplay itself is separate from the story itself, pertaining to character interactions, health bars, etc.

It is why, during cutscenes, people don’t require multiple gunshots to die, for example.

The gameplay, itself, is merely a filler to keep the player focused and within the story, otherwise it would just be a movie.

So, the actual gameplay has no impact on the realism of the story.

It would be more akin to a loading screen between cutscenes.

If those same concepts carried over to the in game cutscenes/story itself (multiple gunshots to die, among others), then we would have a realism issue.

You see stuff like that heavily with boss fights.

When it requires multiple rounds or attacks to kill a boss in actual gameplay, many times when it switches to the cutscene after victory, you only ever see one fatal strike or one wound.

You don’t see a multitude of sword cuts on a person’s body.

The gameplay is a separate reality, essentially.

Well for one Joel is really old plus he's unarmed while Abby has a golf club. Also Abby is built like a brick shithouse

It's called moving the goalposts. We get all upset about a supposed tranny, then it's pointed out that might not be the case, then you go to the realism argument, which like I said, is always a sure way to tell you dont really have an argument other than "I don't like it".

And Last of Us isn't a game that gets its life from it's "realism". And please tell me you're not using the realism angle on Uncharted.

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It's called moving the goalposts.

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That isn’t moving the goalposts.

It is why the “why aren’t you angry about taking multiple gunshots with realism” argument never works in story driven/realistic games.

It is rarely applicable when it comes to gameplay since mechanics and story are completely separate entities in games.

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And Last of Us isn't a game that gets its life from it's "realism".

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It gets its “life” from the world and the story.

It doesn’t get its life from the gameplay.

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And please tell me you're not using the realism angle on Uncharted.

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It is quite literally the exact situation as tLoU.

The world’s reality has rules which exist in the cutscenes that do not apply during gameplay, same as tLoU.

Examples:

Sully dies after being shot one time in the back in Uncharted.

Tess and Marlene both die after being shot once in tLoU.

The gameplay mechanics of games like that do not apply to the stories themselves because, even with whatever grasp on reality that they do have, their reality wouldn’t work.

And I agree that the argument against the person being too yoked is a stupid argument to make and is arguing just for the sake of it, but using the gameplay mechanics as an argument against someone’s “realism” argument, especially in games like this and even in other games like BFV (different reasons here), is just as stupid.

The gameplay can’t live within the same rules of the universe’s reality for obvious reasons.

Very few would actually buy the game.

But you're using a few examples within the game. Im not saying there aren't moments of realism, but with Drake, how many jumps and falls does he take that would kill any living person? It's the same with Lara Croft. Mysticism aside, it's world is very grounded in reality, but you accept how much punishment she takes and survives.

I don't feel it's the realism that's the draw, it's the excitement and intrigue. Or at least a healthy balance of everything.

You have like 20 posts within the last 2 pages. Def a melt. Put some points into your awareness