re: Starfield Info/Discussion Thread

Support open companies.

Nothing wrong with that either, better than waiting years like Gsync because you're a shite company and stubborn when you lose.

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Support open companies.

Nothing wrong with that either, better than waiting years like Gsync because you're a shite company and stubborn when you lose.

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Define "open company".

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I built mine and still have zero idea lol.

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I'm not sure where to start

DLSS, FSR, and XeSS are all "upscaling" (rendering at a lower resolution and displaying a higher resolution to improve FPS while maintaining visual quality) techniques. DLSS is designed by Nvidia and can only be used by Nvidia hardware. FSR is designed by AMD and Xess is designed by Intel. Both of the latter are "open" and can be used by hardware from any company.

DLSS is universally considered to be the best of the three, by a fair bit, especially for target rendering below 4k. XeSS is generally considered a bit better than FSR, but they are tit for tat.

Adding any upscaling tech requires a bit of work by the devs, but once you've included one, including any others is trivial. Further, in UE5, it's basically a tick box for each one.

The conflict we are discussing is that, as of late, AMD has begun "sponsoring" games and as part of that sponsorship requiring those games to only include FSR. Jedi Survivor was the first AAA game that fell victim to this and really pissed people off. When it was announced that Starfield was sponsored by AMD, media outlets immediately began asking both Bethesda and AMD whether DLSS and XeSS would be included. Both ignored all questions for months, leading to the obvious conclusion that those technologies were intentionally excluded. Recently when pre-download opened up for Starfield, people combed the files and saw that only FSR was included, with both DLSS and XeSS being excluded. People exploded.

AMD now appears to be backing off of that position, but only time will tell.

For a bit of visual context, this is what I said about my FSR experience in Jedi Survivor, followed by an example screenshot I took:

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Just finished Jedi: Survivor, and I’ve gotta say, I now really understand the HWU comparison of native/DLSS/FSR. Prior to this, I had never used FSR because there was no reason to use it over DLSS, which I had access to. With J:S being an AMD sponsored game, I was limited to FSR, and honestly, I just wasn’t particularly impressed. It’s fine. The performance gain is worth using over native. But it was noticeably worse than any recent implementation of DLSS 2.x. Some areas looked really great, but sizzling and ghosting were downright immersion breaking at certain points, and I say that as someone who always uses DLSS Quality over native. I’m pulling for AMD to continue closing the gap, but FSR still has a ways to go before it’s a true challenge to DLSS.

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I was playing at 1440x3440, and yeah, kinda meh. Again, probably worth the degradation on average for the performance boost, but definitely more of a compromise than DLSS. Sizzling is really hard to catch in a screenshot, but ghosting was so bad on one elevator that I felt compelled to take one:

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Their software is open source.

Anyone help me out?

Lenovo Legion 5:

Ryzen 7: 5800
Radeon RX 6600M
Memory 16 GB

I would hook it up to my LG CX

Thanks. So worse than an Xbox can run?

You're a lifesaver. I was debating buying an Xbox... Sounds like it would be better to save my money for eventually getting a gaming PC

I should be fine with a Ryzen 9 5900x and 3060 TI right?

This may be the first game that I can actually test my 3080ti out on.