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Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:09 pm to
Posted by GregYoureMyBoyBlue
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 11:09 pm to
TD gaming board gonna go in and buy the tv/movie rights to this? What an excellent game
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 12:02 am to
Movie rights were bought before release
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 12:19 am to
On 2nd playthrough on NG+

I'm at Lumiere after you take the train from the snowy area in the monolith

The black and white flash back with a mother teaching her son to play piano pops up....Sciel asks Verso if he's okay. He says he's fine and to keep moving.

I didn't realize the faceless kid was Verso on the first playthrough. Now I do and it hits so much harder now. Most all of the Foreshadowing does....

**cries into my vodka/redbull**
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 12:21 am
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 12:27 am to
The ending mission is an absolute banger 10/10

Bringing back all the old expeditions, which clea made possible lol, and that soundtrack SLAPS
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 12:47 am to
Only issue I have with this game is the inconsistency of the parries/dodges.

I know for a fricking fact I'm hitting some of these perfectly, but I'm still taking lethal damage.
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 12:50 am to
From my understanding the timings get a bit tighter in NG+ only on expert mode.

And they were already a bit tighter on expert than normal in regular new game. So if you played on normal you might need to adjust a bit. You’ll get it

The worst I had with it was likely one of the easiest fights in the game lol. Against Alicia her mirror move required inputs so fast took me a bit

I’ll also suggest use Audio ques they’re very very helpful

Also if its your first time on expert you should dodge a lot more. You take way way way more damage
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 12:57 am
Posted by LSUGent
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 1:43 am to
I only need to ascend the Gestral tower to complete all the achievements for 100%.

The Verso ending actually is emotionally impactful and not in some bullshite cheap way. Incredible writing.

Hoping that the triple A studios actually step their game up after being showed up by low budget new studio, but I’m not holding my breath.
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 1:44 am to
Ive seen people make moral argument for Maelles ending. I just dont see how it doesnt make her the villain in anyway
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 1:46 am to
Did they lower the max burn stack to 100 in the patch too?

Lammmeeeeee

Phoenix void damage Maelle builds weep

You could easily build up like 250 or more before
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 1:51 am
Posted by LSUGent
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 1:59 am to
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Ive seen people make moral argument for Maelles ending. I just dont see how it doesnt make her the villain in anyway


I’m waiting to do Maelle’s ending, but making the choice to stay in the canvas is ultimately dumb because not only does it actively kill her, but Renoir will inevitably come back and erase the canvas at some point, so it’s just delaying the inevitable at the expense of forcing verso’s remaining soul to continue the fantasy against his will and continuing to make her family worry and grieve.
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 2:01 am to
I was able to do them both at once before they patched out that ability in one run.

It just seems extremely selfish to me on her part. Like its peak selfishness because i mean lets be real her life sucks bad outside of the canvas
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:17 am to
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I was able to do them both at once before they patched out that ability in one run.


You can't do them both in one run anymore? I did Verso first, because I thought I'd prefer the Maelle ending, then did Maelle's ending, then went back and did Verso's ending again because I'm weird and want to "keep the best ending."

I agree with yall that Maelle's ending makes her the villain.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 11:44 pm to
The more I think on it I think Verso is one of the best characters EVER written.

The balls to kill off the main marketed character with a stranger who clearly is withholding knowledge but becomes literally one of the best characters in fiction to explore grief

He isnt a hero. Morally he may not even be a good person, we dont even know if or how much he is acting of his own will. But he is very very human
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 11:47 pm
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:06 am to
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I agree with yall that Maelle's ending makes her the villain.


There is a reading of the game where verso is the villain. It just is simply outright wrong imo. He is NOT very morally good person, and does a bunch of really shitty things. The worst is likely allowing gustsave to die simply to ensure Maelles resolve would steel enough to see it through.

This reading entirely disregards his entire perspective, conflicted somewhat cloud from ff7 nature of who he even is, and a massive amount of postive traits and good actions he displays the entire game.

Verso deserved to rest and the fantasy had to end

Also from my anecdotal experience people who hold communist or maybe more simply utilitarian mindsets simp for maelle and it is easy to get why. I oppose it outright on those grounds,
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 11:20 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:45 am to
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The worst is likely allowing gustsave to die simply to ensure Maelles resolve would steel enough to see it through.


No one in the canvas is real, so this is meaningless imo.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 2:13 pm to
Thats the Maelle cults contention. They argue theyre sentient beings with no less right to life than anyone else. Blah blah liberal crap, as I said its easy to see why they like her

There is no way renoire wouldve just left her in there to become like his wife either. They were all dead. either that day or one soon
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 7:22 pm to
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Thats the Maelle cults contention. They argue theyre sentient beings with no less right to life than anyone else. Blah blah liberal crap, as I said its easy to see why they like her

Yep. It’s the equivalent of saying you killed Harry Potter because you set his book on fire. Maelle’s ending proves no one in the canvas is real. She brings Gustave and Sophie back from the dead like it’s nothing and forces the painted version of Verso to play a concert for everyone. She loses herself in the fantasy world, just like her mother did before her.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:33 pm to
I mean, it's a better world for her than actual reality.

I actually like the Maelle ending. If I were her I'd much rather stay in the painted world. You have control and your life is infinitely better.

Who cares if it's actual reality or not. We as humans try to escape our reality all the time via drugs and alcohol. If any one of us could do it via painting a "virtual reality", we would.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 8:34 pm
Posted by td01241
Savannah
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:41 pm to
Yes. You just described perfectly whats wrong with it imo. It is perfect for Maelle and no one else and nothing else. It only does immense harm to everyone else but her life is so awful in the real world she is willing to condone that
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 5/19/25 at 9:08 pm to
Her father is the selfish one in my opinion. He's wanting Maelle to go back to her shitty life to appease him.

The feelings of the individuals inside the canvas are irrelevant to me. They aren't real.

Maybe I'm influenced by my own life where I've put everyone else first so I side with a character that finally puts themselves first.

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