re: So what's the verdict on the new WoW expansion?

what happened that blizzard messed up?

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Coming from a WoW "lifer," I have no real desire to log in and play in this expansion anymore.

I've slowly started quitting expansions earlier and earlier, but I expected to play this one longer. Loved the leveling experience, but after that it was pretty tedious.

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Pretty much me. The only way I've been able to keep myself interested is by going through the leveling content on different characters. Once it gets down to where it's just a rep grind, it feels completely unfinished. BFA took everything good about Legion and made it bad.

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Once you got to 120, it took way too much effort to get to a decent ilvl to get invited to things.

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For this I just bought purples from the AH. Stupid cheap for what they give you immediate access to. Once you hit 120 you can immediately deck yourself out in a couple 355 trinks and a few 340 armor slots to get yourself access to warfronts and LFR.

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Getting M+ groups was annoying, party leaders always setting stupid high requirements. Parsing in the 90-95% in raids in WCL, and not getting invites to M+ groups was just something I didn't want to fight outside of our scheduled raid nights.

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This is one of the worst problems and I think the playerbase overall is a bigger issue than people want to admit because everyone is circlejerking on Blizzard. Half the time the party leaders don't even meet their own stupid requirements.

Another issue with the players I have is the attitude most people seem to have with warmode. It really feels like 95% of the players just use it for the exp/rep boost and immediately start bitching and turn warmode off as soon as they actually have to engage in the mode they opted into. I tried to get some Horde together in region chat to run off a caravan of about 10 Alliance players that had just been roaming around Vol'dun and killed people questing for hours and the response I got was to just turn warmode off and quit bitching about getting ganked. The funny thing was I wasn't the one getting ganked, I just wanted to actually engage in warmode and use the mode for what it was for. Apparently no one else does. For 3 hours I couldn't even get a group of 10 together to PvP in the open world in the faction that's supposed to be dominating warmode. Blizzard isn't the only thing wrong with this game. There are a lot of lazy, entitled players in this game now that won't engage in ANYTHING if there isn't some kind of reward at the end. The scary thing is that it feels like this is the demographic that Blizz is catering to.

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The game has come to a grinding halt.

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A lot of this is Blizz postponing the raid that comes out with this patch until after Christmas. After the holidays there will be a lot to do, but still BFA is easily the new WoD.

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I'm just waiting patiently until classic comes out so I can relive the glory days.

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Staying unsubbed until this.

Yah I've done a couple different private servers over the years and after a few months have always felt like "this isn't real wow" since it wasn't an official blizzard game.

The servers were always alot of fun I just wanted it to be official.

Now that we're getting that, if it's true to vanilla like they are saying it will be (still need some work from the demo they released), it's going to re-invigorate the player base and be amazing.

I really hope they don't frick it up.