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Playing without a controller

Posted on 6/12/24 at 11:21 am
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9840 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 11:21 am
Noticing more and more games I am interested in require keyboard and mouse vs using my controller...

any suggestions on "gitting gud" using this method ? special keyboards, etc
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4600 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 12:42 pm to
It's really just a matter of getting used to KBM controls.

You can invest in different hardware to suit your preferences of course. The main difference with keyboards that most focus on is the type of key switches which affects how loud the keys are and how much you have to press the key down to get the input.

For mice, it's 99.9% ergonomics. The other 0.1% is preference regarding side buttons or other extra buttons/functionality. If the mouse isn't comfortable with how you hold it, the extra buttons won't make up for that.

ETA: One thing you can do if you have a nearby BestBuy or similar is to swing by, buy a mouse/keyboard that looks appealing and try it out. If you don't like it, take it back to trade it back in and try something different. Rinse & repeat until done. I did that a few years ago when I was hunting for a new mouse.
This post was edited on 6/12/24 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21720 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 12:48 pm to
Saw a video where a guy reached the highest rank in Valorant using a touch pad and pen.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
70154 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 1:10 pm to
I haven't played a PC game in earnest since WoW in 2010 and my fingers on my left hand still go to WASD by default.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9840 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 1:27 pm to
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WASD by default.


I get the reference, but I use QWERTY all day, so it seems odd that i could traing myself after thirty years to use four keys and not a thumbstick
Posted by DandA
Mandevillian
Member since Jun 2018
921 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 3:07 pm to
It's honestly all practice and building up muscle memory. I made the switch back to MnK a couple years ago from controller for FPS games, and I'm not going back. Making WASD your "home" hand position is very important.

As far as hardware, depending on what games you like to play and how many keybinds you need to have access to, how much space you need for your mouse, personal preference, etc. there are numerous options. You have standard full size keyboards, ten key-less boards, and one-handed keyboards. Then, there are further categories such as mechanical and optical boards.

This is the keyboard i use, its ten-key-less to give me some more room for my mouse. Ten-key-less obviously doesnt have the number pad on the right like standard boards do. There are also boards that cut off the arrow keys on the right side that are even more compact than this one.


Here's an example of a one-handed keyboard. There are a multitude of options for these with a very wide range of prices.
I messed around and bought a cheap $35 one from amazon once, and i actually enjoyed using it, but it didnt have the amount of keys i needed for all of my games.

As far as your mouse, that's 100% personal preference. Best advice there is to hit up a Best Buy and find one that feels good to you, then doing some online research, reading reviews, watching some YouTube videos, etc to find more options that are similar to your preferences. Gotta decide whether you want wired vs wireless, if you want a lighter vs heavier mouse, how many extra buttons you want on the mouse, what dpi settings the mouse has, how customizable the button mapping can be.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29864 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 6:12 pm to
Ever play Goldeneye on N64? WASD is the D-pad and the mouse is an infinitely better version of the joystick. Just run around for a while and get used to the movement. It will become second nature pretty quickly. There’s a reason why kb/m players will generally beat the brakes off of controller players unless the latter gets aim assist to try and compensate.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9840 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 7:05 pm to
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There’s a reason why kb/m players will generally beat the brakes off of controller players unless the latter gets aim assist to try and compensate.


you had me until this......

all i know is its hard to run cheats on an X but pretty straightforward on PC
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29864 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 9:32 pm to
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you had me until this...... all i know is its hard to run cheats on an X but pretty straightforward on PC

Name a single cross platform title that doesn’t include significant aim assist for consoles in which PC gamers don’t beat the absolute brakes off of said console players. And no, cheats aren’t the reason why.

There are certain types of games, like platformers, in which controllers are superior. You then have games like Souls-likes that people argue over.

Any game that involves aiming from a first person perspective is better with kb/m. And I say that with no qualifiers whatsoever. It’s not even close.
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