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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 1/25/14 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 1:54 pm to
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Im building the GF's little sister a SteamBox with that exact case. Haven't ordered it yet but I believe she will love it in white.


The only reason i got white because my roommates 360 is black. I need to find a cheap surround sound receiver since my current one from my parents broke
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 1:55 pm to
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Nah I'm going to stick with the 2tb. I don't want my roommate to get confused with the 2 drives and download everything to the SSD



You know I had the same thought when building my little brothers computers last year. I wanted it to feel "fast" but wasn't going to spend a $200+ bucks on a large SSD and 2 drive solution would have been complicated for a 7yr old.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 1:56 pm to
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The only reason i got white because my roommates 360 is black. I need to find a cheap surround sound receiver since my current one from my parents broke

Ah, I have given up on surround set ups.

A nice sound bar and wireless sub is good enough for me.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 1:58 pm to
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Ah, I have given up on surround set ups.


I wouldn't care about it either had I not set on up already. pain in the arse wiring everything through the walls
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:02 pm to
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pain in the arse wiring everything through the walls

Yeah I know. We got the contractor to wire up a few rooms in this house during construction. You don't even notice the tiny caps in the corners which have stub ends for the surround. I did it "just in case" but decided to go the sound bar route.

Now if my home was larger and we had a dedicated movie/theater room, then yes I would do surround without question. Maybe on next house, I could dedicate some attic space to one.

EDT: Will you install Steam OS on it?
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 2:03 pm
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
24418 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:38 pm to
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Mr Gardoki



Just bought 3 sapphire 7870 GHZ cards like yours.
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:41 pm to
Damn! How much and where?
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:53 pm to
Amazon. $175 each. There's a mail in rebate too I believe.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19526 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:54 pm to
Is that a good price for mining?
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
24418 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:56 pm to
I suppose... They just went back up to $220 each like 10 minutes ago.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:09 pm to
They have been cheaper than that on newegg lately
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:44 pm to
yeah but they've almost always been out of stock as soon as they are.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:53 pm to
It lasted a couple of days, I was looking at it
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56794 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:05 pm to
If for mining, wouldn't a $499 290 yield better results per kW?
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19526 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 10:05 pm to
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Will you install Steam OS on it?


Nope either windows 8 or 7. We're going to use it for movies, music, etc too
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:17 pm to
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If for mining, wouldn't a $499 290 yield better results per kW?


Yep, but at the moment he had a certain amount of money to spend, where he would've only been able to afford 1 290 vs. the 3 7870s at that price. The hash rate of the 7870s will yield more dollars per day than one 290 even after factoring in power costs. The larger the investment you make at this point, the longer you have to assume the mining bubble will last.

With the 7870s (which were not purchased at a gouge price) and his already existing hardware, he can potentially mine his investment back within a month, or he can continue to make incremental "bets" at the sustainability of the mining bubble -- for example, he can mine $100 or so worth of coins in a few days and then sell two of those 7870s (maybe even make a profit from the sale), and use the proceeds and the mining money to invest in a 290, increasing his hash rate, slightly lowering his power consumption, and at a lower risk.

That's just what I'd do. I don't like paying $100 more for a card that may or may not earn my investment back despite its efficiency. 2 months ago, sure, but hindsight is 20/20.

Also, I have a third 270x arriving Tuesday.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 11:18 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56794 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:40 pm to
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That's just what I'd do. I don't like paying $100 more for a card that may or may not earn my investment back despite its efficiency. 2 months ago, sure, but hindsight is 20/20.

We are at 2 different PoVs.

I'm talking gaming upgrades and mining.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:42 pm to
I'm talking mining and speculation only, which is why he bought them.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56794 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:47 pm to
I still see it at nearly a draw.

3x175 or whatever = 525

290 = 500

Aren't they roughly close to the same performance plus - the extra kW and extra components to run those 3 cards?

I don't see it being a win but a draw, but then again I have no clue about the mining business and just purchase cards for fun.

EDT: If you can make a few hundred bucks mining in just a few days, I need to put some cards to work then!

EDT 2:

I'm trying to understand the decision of why you are saying 3x7870s @ 525 is better than a 290 @ 500.

They are both inflated prices for both cards that will perform around the same price. None the less the 7870 set up will perform closer to a 290X correct? 3x1280 cores vs the 2500 so cores in the 290.

Help me understand your world. lol

Another question, do the Pitcarin (sp?) cores perform the same as the Tahiti and Hawaii cores? Want to see if it really is all about core count and architecture has little affect.
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 12:14 am
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
24418 posts
Posted on 1/26/14 at 12:20 am to
yeah, that's what I have been conflicted with, but the 290 will only yield around 830-880k/h, whereas the 3 7870 I'm looking at around 1400+. I spent less for more(I was looking at the gigabyte windforce card). That's how it makes sense. That is what really made the decision for me. The thought of gaming never crossed my mind, and still hasn't.
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 12:23 am
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