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Posted on 3/30/23 at 11:33 pm to
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 3/30/23 at 11:33 pm to
It's like Germany's newegg, only they post of all their sales so you can see exactly what is selling and what isn't.

Wish America did more of this. Would love to see actual real reported sales numbers weekly. Hell even monthly.
This post was edited on 3/30/23 at 11:34 pm
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 3/30/23 at 11:34 pm to
I was so confused by the low sales across all the cards

Makes sense now that it's a German site
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 3/30/23 at 11:36 pm to
All we get is a "top sellers" section which still doesn't tell us shite for actual sales numbers.

That being said AMD owns the top 4 on Amazon.
This post was edited on 3/30/23 at 11:37 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 3/30/23 at 11:39 pm to
Piggybacking off of all of AMD's sales success, their stock is up 25% over the last month.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 3/31/23 at 3:03 pm to
[Hardware Unboxed] The Last of Us Part I, RIP 8GB GPUs! Nvidia's Planned Obsolescence In Effect

Not surprising, I remember when the 3000 series was dropping and people kept trying to make excuses for shitty 8GB cards that were already too low back then. Nvidia loves them some anti-consumer tactics. Always have.
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 12:24 pm to
Honestly... AMD could not introduce another CPU this year after the 7800X3D, keep selling the 5800X3D and 5700X and they'll still probably come out great.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 3:43 pm to
Is UH OK?

I'd figured he'd be bragging about the 7800X3d chips.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:31 pm to
Well we've known for months that the 7800X3D was a monster and was going to obliterate Intel.

Really not much new to speak on. It happened.
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 4/7/23 at 1:09 am to
Don’t get the point of the 7950x3d or 7900x3d though.

Just comes across as a money grab releasing those way before the 7800x3d.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 4/7/23 at 5:06 am to
I can get the 79503d. People who want to game and do production work on the side. I don't get the 79003d tho.

Speaking of which. amd offering discounts of up to $100 on 7900 and 79503d.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/7/23 at 3:23 pm to
Yeah, the 7800x3D is what we thought it would be, and the 7950x3D is for those who have a bit more money than sense, but the 7900x3D is straight up garbage that never should have been released. I honestly have no idea what AMD was thinking. The little bit of sales they got on that sku isn’t worth the bad press they are getting over it.
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 9:53 am to
RTX 4070 is just boring. $599? lol

Remember the 2070 being at $399? The 2070 Super being at $449-$499?

The RTX 3070 being at $499?

Just boring AF.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 10:09 am to
quote:

RTX 4070 is just boring. $599? lol Remember the 2070 being at $399? The 2070 Super being at $449-$499? The RTX 3070 being at $499? Just boring AF.


Yup. This whole gen sucks. Though because the 4070 is a less bad value than other RTX offerings, it will likely sell fairly well, unfortunately. Prices either need to come down, or this generation is a skip for me. There’s just nothing interesting to me this generation from either AMD or Nvidia, outside of the 4090, which is likewise terribly overpriced. Whole damned generation is frustrating. Hopefully next will be better.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 11:05 am to
20% higher costs for 30% performance(not including FG) with 50% more memory.

Better value than the 3070 was at the time. Not that was saying a whole lot. Who the frick would pay 500 for an 8gb card at that time.

It's better than anything AMD or Nvidia has on the higher levels. W/O going into $1600 vile.

With inflation and TSMC's skyrocketing prices, we're stuck with this. Too many eggs placed in their basket.

If I do upgrade this gen, this will be the one. I'll wait to see what AMD has, but I like heavy RT and the AMD simply won't be able to keep up. I'll wait and see for the 7800xtx, it should be priced around the same price.
This post was edited on 4/12/23 at 11:06 am
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 12:00 pm to
I think there are two possibilities left for me this Gen:

1. Nvidia releases a 4080ti with a full fat 102 die but with the same 16gb of vram for $1,200. With the original 4080 sliding down to $999.

2. AMD releases a groundbreaking card with 3D cache, etc, that resets the market.

Outside of those two options, I’m likely a skip.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 12:12 pm to
Ya, this gen is a likely skip. I'll wait and see what comes out, but my 1080ti is still holding up. I obviously have to reduce settings. No different from my previous r9, 290x and 7870.

Inflation is hitting tho. If I was atm, it would be the 4070, but that's just now.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 5:55 pm to
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 6:14 pm to
Josh, i'm not looking to do so, but am just curious. Is there anything from AMD or Nvidia that is an upgrade over the 3080 and worth the cost? I've been looking at them but nothing sticks out as worth it.

ETA: At 1440p
This post was edited on 4/12/23 at 6:15 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 6:35 pm to
quote:

Josh, i'm not looking to do so, but am just curious. Is there anything from AMD or Nvidia that is an upgrade over the 3080 and worth the cost? I've been looking at them but nothing sticks out as worth it.

ETA: At 1440p


"Worth the cost" is always relative, but my personal answer is no. Conveniently for you, I have a 3080 and play at 1440UW (3440x1440), so you can basically just substitute my opinion regarding my own future purchases directly to your situation

I'm holding out unless/until one of the two options occur from my post a few posts up. As someone who already has a high end card, nothing interests me as an upgrade outside of the 4090, and I, like most people, have a hard time justifying the cost.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 6:53 pm to
I wouldn't worry about that card at that resolution. Only if you want frame generation. I can't imagine going to 8 hundo for a "worthy" upgrade that only has 12 gb of ram.

3080 is still a good card.

Come to think about it, I don't think a 4070ti would be a worthy upgrade... Have fun with that.
This post was edited on 4/12/23 at 6:56 pm
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