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Posted on 8/18/21 at 7:59 pm to
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 7:59 pm to
Ah I don't know why I thought you did.

I plan on using my Steam deck to stream games from my gaming PC to my 4k TV
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 7:25 am to
SK Hynix P31 Gold drives, including the new 2TB, are the deal if the day at Amazon. Great drives. Just picked up a second:

Deal of the day: SK hynix Gold P31 2TB PCIe NVMe Gen3 M.2 2280 Internal SSD l Up to 3500MB/S l Compact M.2 SSD Form Factor SK hynix SSD - Internal Solid State Drive with 128-Layer NAND Flash LINK
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 2:43 am to
Looks like AMD is starting to discount Zen 3 more, clearly getting ready for the refresh announcement next month.

$389 Newegg 5800X. Damn good deal.
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 2:44 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 10:27 am to
One day processor upgrades will be worth something again. There would have to be a steep technology improvement for me to upgrade

This graph is quite telling

Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 10:34 am to
Link?

A 2080ti at 4k is already going to be dying in all but the best of cases, so depending on the game, yeah, I could see it being gpu bound through the last decade of processors

Now, gpu upgrades are still way more important than cpu upgrades, but you do see improvements running a 3080 between, say, a 3600 and and a 5900x. The gains don't scale well with the money, but they do exist. And from a 2200G? Stop it

What I'm most interested in is seeing if AMD can deliver on their 3d cache tease.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 10:36 am to
Ok, that chart has a 3600 running slightly better than a 5900x. Now I'm just calling bullshite on their entire testing methodology
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 10:37 am to
It's techpowerup, so it's not like they have some bullshite agenda to push.

But it still goes to show that at 4k res the processor doesn't matter at all (to an extent obviously)
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 10:38 am
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 10:44 am to
quote:

It's techpowerup, so it's not like they have some bullshite agenda to push.

But it still goes to show that at 4k res the processor doesn't matter at all (to an extent obviously)


To an extent, absolutely. Though as someone running (for now) a 3600 with a 3070fe at 3440x1440, I actually do find points where I stutter because I hit a spot that just so happens to be cpu heavy. The most recent jarring one is a spot with falling cherry blossoms in CP2077 right at the beginning of act 2.

But anyway, at its core, I agree. People should never, ever, sacrifice gpu power to get a better cpu, at least just for gaming. Dropping from a 3080 to a 3070 so that you can bump from a 5600x to a 5800x is insanity. But at which point you're already comfortably at a 3080, spending a little more on your cpu will improve performance. Now, your average frame times won't see much of a bump, but your 0.1% and 1% lows will markedly improve.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:13 pm to
I may grab the refresh, 8700K getting a bit long in the tooth these days. Double digit FPS.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:14 pm to
I may grab the refresh, 8700K getting a bit long in the tooth these days. Double digit FPS. Especially with the new MCM design and potentially 15% gaming improvement.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:08 am to
You're at 1440p still right?
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:01 pm to
Ya.

I really just don't want to finally upgrade case/mobo/cpu and in literally 8 months Zen 4 will be here with DDR5.

Just seems smarter to wait I'm just impatient and have the itch to tinker.
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 11:09 pm
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/27/21 at 7:13 am to
Was it you that was hunting an 80ti? Mtechtx.com has one available that ships today. FTW3
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/27/21 at 7:59 am to
That place actually legit?
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 8/27/21 at 8:02 am to
quote:

That place actually legit?


people are receiving orders.
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/27/21 at 8:03 am to
The on hand stuff ships same day

The preorders are being filled slowly but surely
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 8/27/21 at 8:40 am to
quote:

SK Hynix P31 Gold drives, including the new 2TB, are the deal if the day at Amazon. Great drives. Just picked up a second:

Deal of the day: SK hynix Gold P31 2TB PCIe NVMe Gen3 M.2 2280 Internal SSD l Up to 3500MB/S l Compact M.2 SSD Form Factor SK hynix SSD - Internal Solid State Drive with 128-Layer NAND Flash LINK


I have a 1 TB S31 SATA drive from them for my game storage. They are legit.

Their drives compare very well against Samsung and Western Digital in both performance and price.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18236 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 8:42 am to
I actually just realized I could get hardware from our supplier

They have a 3080ti listed for $1500, but it would likely be at MSRP ordering it through the company
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/27/21 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

I have a 1 TB S31 SATA drive from them for my game storage. They are legit.

Their drives compare very well against Samsung and Western Digital in both performance and price.


I already had a 1TB. What's so impressive about them is how well they work even when nearly full.

I added another 2TB just for vanity purposes, and so I basically never have to uninstall a Steam game for the next several years

ETA: And no matter how many times I do it, I always get confused when Windows doesn't recognize my new drive on boot because I forget that I have to go format it...
This post was edited on 8/27/21 at 8:22 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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27070 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

I actually just realized I could get hardware from our supplier

They have a 3080ti listed for $1500, but it would likely be at MSRP ordering it through the company


I mean, do you want to become the new Mtech Mike? Because you could run quite the little cottage industry
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