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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:02 pm to LSU Coyote
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:02 pm to LSU Coyote
Navi 10 3080 will compete with the 2070 for the rumored price of $249, I would guess $299. Should create a solid stir in the mid range given that the 2070 still costs $500.
I will probably grab one to tide me over until full Navi 20 early next year. Sounds like it may be a very strong card and on 7nm+ already.
TSMC is killing the game though, they are full steam ahead on 5nm.
Thought you may like the extra tech part, out of my understanding.
I will probably grab one to tide me over until full Navi 20 early next year. Sounds like it may be a very strong card and on 7nm+ already.
TSMC is killing the game though, they are full steam ahead on 5nm.
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TSMC this week said that it has completed development of tools required for design of SoCs that are made using its 5 nm (CLN5FF, N5) fabrication technology. The company indicated that some of its alpha customers (which use pre-production tools and custom designs) had already started risk production of their chips using its N5 manufacturing process, which essentially means that the technology is on-track for high-volume manufacturing (HVM) in 2020.
TSMC’s N5 is the company’s 2nd generation fabrication technology that uses both deep ultraviolet (DUV) as well as extreme ultraviolet (EUV) lithography. The process can use EUVL on up to 14 layers (a tangible progress from N7+, which uses EUVL on four non-critical layers) to enable significant improvements in terms of density. TSMC says that when compared to N7 (1st Gen 7 nm, DUV-only), N5 technology will allow chip developers to shrink die area of their designs by ~45%, making transistor density ~1.8x higher. It will also increase frequency by 15% (at the same complexity and power) or reduce power consumption by 20% power reduction (at the same frequency and complexity).
Thought you may like the extra tech part, out of my understanding.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:59 am to UltimateHog
An 8C/16T R5 3600X will probably be the sweet spot for gamers if they hit those clocks.
Just don't know if anything above 8 cores really makes sense if all you're doing is gaming (and really you can still get away with 4 cores right now).
Just don't know if anything above 8 cores really makes sense if all you're doing is gaming (and really you can still get away with 4 cores right now).
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:04 am to boXerrumble
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Just don't know if anything above 8 cores really makes sense if all you're doing is gaming (and really you can still get away with 4 cores right now).
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:06 am to boXerrumble
Oh for sure, but for the prices yeah I'm gonna go with the 12/24 for sure.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:22 am to UltimateHog
Most engines don't even support 6C much less 8C. Hell Blizzard's engine still only supports single core. Then some devs turn off the compatability to insure stability if Windows mismanages resource budgets.
Single core IPC is still very important. It is even more game and engine specific now more than ever.
Single core IPC is still very important. It is even more game and engine specific now more than ever.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 9:24 am
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:24 am to LSU Coyote
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Single core IPC is still very important.
Yea if AMDs 3xxx 8c, 12c, etc can surpass Intel in single core IPC then I'll make the swap. Until then I'm still sticking to Intel
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:33 am to LSU Coyote
Yeah, that's why I had no interest in the 9900K especially at over $500.
But for $329 I'll go 12/24 just for the price level and tech boner.
Looks like I can still get $250 for my delidded 8700K too.
But for $329 I'll go 12/24 just for the price level and tech boner.
Looks like I can still get $250 for my delidded 8700K too.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 9:37 am
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:37 am to UltimateHog
I'm really pissed about the 9900K. I don't mind spending the money. I've been on the Enthusiast series for years.
But $150 bones for just HT and same number of lanes.
Fckk you Intel.
But $150 bones for just HT and same number of lanes.
Fckk you Intel.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:03 am to UltimateHog
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Looks like I can still get $250 for my delidded 8700K too.
Or give me a TD discount so I can swap my 8500 out
Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:21 am to LSU Coyote
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I'm really pissed about the 9900K. I don't mind spending the money. I've been on the Enthusiast series for years.
But $150 bones for just HT and same number of lanes.
Fckk you Intel.
Most benchmarks have the 9700k matching the 9900k anyway. If you're really going for the best intel gaming CPU, why get the 9900k over the 9700k?
Posted on 4/24/19 at 12:06 pm to boXerrumble
It will.
But I do like those extra threads in some task. (Outside gaming obviously) Not really the point.
But I do like those extra threads in some task. (Outside gaming obviously) Not really the point.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:43 pm to LSU Coyote
Threads would be useful depending on your application/workload.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:04 pm to boXerrumble
Yes, why I said what I said. 
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:52 pm to boXerrumble
9700K doesn't have hyperthreading, I could never buy that at over $400.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 3:33 pm to UltimateHog
The side panel etching turned out pretty good


Posted on 4/24/19 at 3:41 pm to UltimateHog
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an still get $250 for my delidded 8700K too.
really? I paid 305 for mine. I wonder if the new Ryzens will outperform those.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 3:42 pm to bluebarracuda
This awesome!
Whenever I get my 3D printer, apparently you can convert it to an etcher as well.
Whenever I get my 3D printer, apparently you can convert it to an etcher as well.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 3:49 pm to bluebarracuda
Dude I love it.
Very legit!
Very legit!
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 4/24/19 at 4:30 pm to LSU Coyote
Lost my pup today to his heart murmur after 6 years. 
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