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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 4/14/18 at 5:29 pm to
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 5:29 pm to
Or Intel, Raja is developing a desktop GPU for Intel to compete with both. Will it be worth a shite? Who knows with his track record, but he does have a much larger R&D budget so maybe.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 5:50 pm to
I really hope AMD develops a GPU that beats the 2080 at launch. I want a high res, high refresh monitor, but it has to have freesync or gsync
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 5:54 pm to
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Or Intel, Raja is developing a desktop GPU for Intel to compete with both

Sort of.. they won't be competing on the top end. Which sucks because that is where they have no competition.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 5:55 pm to
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really hope AMD develops a GPU that beats the 2080 at launch. I want a high res, high refresh monitor, but it has to have freesync or gsync

They will, 1yr later.

Edt: Probably 2yrs.
This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 5:56 pm
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 6:06 pm to
Vega 56 was intriguing given the initial $399 tag and the ability to flash to Vega 64 BIOS.

But mining and the lack of a competitor to the 1080ti really screwed Vega in general.

EDIT: Then Nvidia dropped the 1070ti, and that was that.

BTW, anyone seen the Nvidia GPP stuff released lately? Total BS if GPU makers have to completely rebrand their lineups just to comply with that.
This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 6:08 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 6:19 pm to
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Vega 56 was intriguing given the initial $399 tag and the ability to flash to Vega 64 BIOS. 

But mining and the lack of a competitor to the 1080ti really screwed Vega in general. 


Yeah. But no where near the top offerings from nVidia. Also 2yrs behind.

Vega wasn't that great of a launch. Really disappointed post mordom.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 6:24 pm to
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lack of a competitor to the 1080ti really screwed Vega in general.



And that's all AMDs own damn fault. How can they just concede that?

They have everything in place to beat out Nvidia, but they just won't do it
This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 6:34 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 7:20 pm to
Because they care more about the CPU marketplace. Ryzen had something like 20-30% higher R&D budget than the GPU division.

Vega was a success because of it being the best mining card available so it still sold like hot cakes, and because of what it accomplished for the data center space where it made big waves.

So for AMD it was all good, if you wanted a super high end gaming card then it was only partially good.

I wouldn't trade my $399 Vega 56 flashed to 64 and top tier monitor for a different setup. But I put a lot more emphasis on monitors.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 7:31 pm to
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top tier monitor for a different setup


At 1080p

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But I put a lot more emphasis on monitors.


We all do, but most of us get video cards that will at least push the basics of our monitors
This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 7:36 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56432 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:21 pm to
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Because they care more about the CPU marketplace. Ryzen had something like 20-30% higher R&D budget than the GPU division

Yes and no. They shifted focus because AMD had been pushed out every market. Do you remember our conversations on this topic?
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Vega was a success because of it being the best mining card available so it still sold like hot cakes, and because of what it accomplished for the data center space where it made big waves.

They lucked into that scenario. Vega didn't challenge nVidia in the less. Really disappointed, we need them challenged.
This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 9:23 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:26 pm to
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wouldn't trade my $399 Vega 56 flashed to 64 and top tier monitor for a different setup. But I put a lot more emphasis on monitors

Well we put everything into the whole system.

What is the point of having just a top tier you without top tier monitor or top of the line monitor with mid tier gpu?

These things go hand in hand.
This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 9:32 pm
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19376 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 9:44 pm to
Only UH can care about having top of the line stuff
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69421 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 10:57 pm to
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At 1080p


What?

quote:

We all do, but most of us get video cards that will at least push the basics of our monitors



Bruh Vega 64 pushes 1440p perfectly, it's like 3-5% more powerful than a 1080.
This post was edited on 4/14/18 at 11:04 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69421 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 10:57 pm to
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Well we put everything into the whole system.

What is the point of having just a top tier you without top tier monitor or top of the line monitor with mid tier gpu?

These things go hand in hand.


Oh I was referencing your shitty basic 4K monitors, you've never had a legit high end monitor.
Posted by robzillaaa
The swamp land
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:16 am to
I need some advice. I have gaming pc with a 1080 card. I would like a good 4k monitor. What would be the best monitor to get under 700.00 ?
Posted by UltimateHog
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:35 am to
Korean.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56432 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 10:42 am to
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 I was referencing your shitty basic 4K monitors, you've never had a legit high end monitor.

Lol I've own everything from gsyncs, 120hz, 1440 and 2160s.

My favorite are CrossOvers. 2x32" 2160s @ 75hz is just fine. All other moniotors come with that annoying anti-glare stuff. I rather pure glossy.

How have I not? You don't understand all of here have owned everything. Why we know.

Edt: You are a truly ignorant.
This post was edited on 4/15/18 at 10:46 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
181887 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 10:53 am to
UH drives an old arse 350z and probably makes fun of people that drive a 3 series not realizing the irony in that they are both douches.

In short, why do you waste time arguing with him?
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56432 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 11:01 am to
I feel sorry for him. Truely.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69421 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:55 pm to
You literally made fun of someone in a console thread a few weeks ago for faux 4K with a PS4 Pro while you yourself have faux 4K.

You just talk a big game but have cheap arse monitors. I find it hilarious.

For the money you spend on everything else, to skimp out on monitors. Oof.
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