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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 7:41 pm to bluebarracuda
Posted on 2/16/18 at 7:41 pm to bluebarracuda
$1799, a bit more than I wanted to spend but if worth it I don't mind.
This review may have sold me on it
This review may have sold me on it
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 8:04 pm
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 8:40 pm to UltimateHog
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Is the new Surface Book 2 13.5" with i7-8650U + GTX1050 worth it?
What do you expect to do with it? I just sold a laptop with a 1060 and another with a 1050 Ti. The 1050 Ti felt like the absolute minimal for gaming. As a work laptop/personal use it looks awesome. My current work laptop comes with the 8550U which is great. I also love our Surface Pro with last year's shtty dual core. We love it, but it lags sometimes in browsing.
The build on those Surface devices rival Apple's offering in terms of quality. IMO they have better keyboards (Surface Book and Surface Laptop).
Posted on 2/16/18 at 8:46 pm to UltimateHog
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$1799, a bit more than I wanted to spend but if worth it I don't mind. This review may have sold me on it
What does suck is the price for upgrading from 8GB to 16GB. I mean wtf, $500 bucks? This is the reason we purchased the SO's Surface Pro with just 4GB. She is using it for school only. But going up to 8GB was like $350 bucks more at the time. Not worth it when you already have to add the price for keyboard ($150) and pen ($80). Those things don't come standard anymore.
For what I would need that laptop for it needs more than 8GB. I stay around 6GB-9.5GB depending on what tool I'm utilizing at the time. Esp since I run some standalone DBs on my PC. If I have multiple projects open it can get become a resource hog.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:12 pm to LSU Coyote
I'll use it more as a tablet with the occasional light gaming from bed. 1050 is fine for what I would want to play on it in bed (League, CSGO, Battalion).
It's lighter as a tablet by a lot over an XPS 13 2in1 or 13" HP Spectre x360 while also offering more docked across the board.
Seems like the best win win 2 in 1 out there. Not to mention a great design and great reviews. Just also quite a bit more expensive $1300 versus $1800 and that's on sale.
It's lighter as a tablet by a lot over an XPS 13 2in1 or 13" HP Spectre x360 while also offering more docked across the board.
Seems like the best win win 2 in 1 out there. Not to mention a great design and great reviews. Just also quite a bit more expensive $1300 versus $1800 and that's on sale.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 2/16/18 at 9:57 pm to UltimateHog
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Seems like the best win win 2 in 1 out there. Not to mention a great design and great reviews. Just also quite a bit more expensive $1300 versus $1800 and that's on sale.
Agree. That price just throws me off for a 1050. I would be interested in the acoustics but this probably doesn't matter since you will no doubt game with headphones. Can also tell you that the Surface Pro @ 12.3" feel a bit too heavy as a tablet for most things. Now it could be the lack of a case on the Surface Pro that makes us too scared to use it in tablet mode a ton. We have given it some thought. So we just use an iPad for most "tablet" things because that SoB has a case.
Edt: Further reading on the 13" Surface Book 2 vs Surface Pro display I thought they had the same display at 12.3". If you read further the display on the 13.5" Surface Book 2 is 12.3" and Surface Pro 11.5". The 15" Surface Book 2 has a 13.5" display. That isn't too much of a jump up in size making it extremely portable.
I just took a few comparison shots for you with what I have in the house right now. My current Inspiron with a 15.6" doesn't seem large like most 15" laptops. Maybe you might consider the 15" Surface Book 2. Forgive the terrible quality. Quick snaps from my desk. It has terrible overhead lighting.
Surface Pro 12.3" vs Dell Inspiron 7573 2-in-1 15.6"
Dell Latitude 7490 14.1" vs Dell Inspiron 7573 2-in-1 15.6"
Dell Inspiron 7567 15.6" vs Dell Inspiron 7573 2-in-1 15.6"
Dell Chromebook 13" vs Dell Inspiron 7573 2-in-1 15.6"
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:20 pm to LSU Coyote
Jesus. 
I really want 13". If I was going to go up to 15" range I would just wait until mid-March and get the new Dell XPS 15" 2in1 with the Intel+Vega inside.
Those things are also 4.8 pounds versus the 13" version at 2.8 and the Surface Book 2 as a tablet at 1.8.
I really want 13". If I was going to go up to 15" range I would just wait until mid-March and get the new Dell XPS 15" 2in1 with the Intel+Vega inside.
Those things are also 4.8 pounds versus the 13" version at 2.8 and the Surface Book 2 as a tablet at 1.8.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:25 pm to UltimateHog
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I really want 13". If I was going to go up to 15" range I would just wait until mid-March and get the new Dell XPS 15" 2in1 with the Intel+Vega inside.
Just saying I felt the same until recently. A 1060 is leagues ahead of a 1050. But at a premium price in the Surface Book line.
Trying to be informative. Have a little experience with using a lot of devices. Just my thoughts on the current situation. Probably 1.5yrs ago I would have said the same thing. Might still say the same thing, esp outside of gaming. The 1060 would be a totally different world compared the 1050. So want to make sure form factor isn't such a deciding factor when they are so close in size.
I'm excited about the XPS 15. Might be getting one depending on pricing. If it costs $2K+ for a 16GB version then it is a no go. Pending the RAM being soldered. Not certain if we have confirmation on that yet.
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Those things are also 4.8 pounds versus the 13" version at 2.8 and the Surface Book 2 as a tablet at 1.8.
Gotcha. Thought the Surface Book 2 was closer to 3.5lbs with keyboard.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:34 pm to LSU Coyote
Yeah for me gaming on it is down the line of importance, more of a novelty for rare situations than anything else. Main thing is portability.
So it seems like, even though it's going to run $1800, I get the 13" form factor, portability as a tablet, light gaming, and excellent build quality/design.
So it seems like, even though it's going to run $1800, I get the 13" form factor, portability as a tablet, light gaming, and excellent build quality/design.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:37 pm to UltimateHog
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Yeah for me gaming on it is down the line of importance, more of a novelty for rare situations than anything else. Main thing is portability.
Yeah just that extra 0.75" and whatever extra weight makes a huge difference as a tablet alone.
The Surface line is super nice. Esp the Surface Book. It might be my favorite keyboard.
Posted on 2/18/18 at 2:13 am to LSU Coyote
I have fallen down a surface line worm hole.
The Surface Studio is too awesome, I wish I had an excuse to waste the money on one.
Man if they had the top end Intel+Vega chip Studio refresh coming out I would almost yolo for one. As is though, $3199 for a 6th gen i7 and a 2GB 960M? Naw. 8th gen i7 and 1050/160 or Vega? On sale maybe.
The Surface Studio is too awesome, I wish I had an excuse to waste the money on one.
Man if they had the top end Intel+Vega chip Studio refresh coming out I would almost yolo for one. As is though, $3199 for a 6th gen i7 and a 2GB 960M? Naw. 8th gen i7 and 1050/160 or Vega? On sale maybe.
This post was edited on 2/18/18 at 2:40 am
Posted on 2/18/18 at 11:08 pm to UltimateHog
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The Surface Studio is too awesome, I wish I had an excuse to waste the money on one.
Yeah. Wish it offered more for internals.
Leo Laporte of TWiT loves the thing. It replaced his laptop for conducting their weekly show.
Posted on 2/18/18 at 11:35 pm to LSU Coyote
Yeah they need a refresh, $3499 gets you a 6th gen i7 and 2GB 965M. Rooough.
Surface products definitely seem overpriced by a decent chunk. I'm really having a hard time pulling the trigger.
Surface products definitely seem overpriced by a decent chunk. I'm really having a hard time pulling the trigger.
This post was edited on 2/19/18 at 4:01 am
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:01 am to UltimateHog
I was going to pick up a used SP4 before I got my laptop. Those machines are just amazing.
But I do hate how they went the Apple route for pricing. Seems like most companies are doing it for their thin and lights these days (XPS, HP, MS Surface, etc)
But I do hate how they went the Apple route for pricing. Seems like most companies are doing it for their thin and lights these days (XPS, HP, MS Surface, etc)
Posted on 2/19/18 at 5:05 pm to bluebarracuda
Yeah I've looked at the 2017 refresh Surface Pro but even then at $1399 for the i7 8gb 256gb model by the time I add the type cover and pen I'm just a couple hundred short of the Surface Book 2 with better specs.
It's pretty annoying when you're running a $200 off sale and it's still hard to pull the trigger. Their pricing definitely sucks.
It's pretty annoying when you're running a $200 off sale and it's still hard to pull the trigger. Their pricing definitely sucks.
This post was edited on 2/19/18 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:49 am to UltimateHog
Made a decision to just go with the newest Surface Pro i7 8gb/256gb, $1200 brand new off eBay. I just couldn't wrap my head ahead 2K for the Book 2 and still having just 8GB/256GB for that much money. Ordered the alcantara type cover and surface pen off Amazon as well.
I think I can still do some CSGO/League with the Iris Plus 640?
I think I can still do some CSGO/League with the Iris Plus 640?
This post was edited on 2/21/18 at 8:51 am
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:51 am to UltimateHog
idk, maybe?
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:57 am to LSU Coyote
Well if it doesn't wet my whistle I shall resell her and buy a Book 2.
I think it will fit what I'm looking for, excited for it to get here.
I think it will fit what I'm looking for, excited for it to get here.
This post was edited on 2/21/18 at 9:34 am
Posted on 2/21/18 at 10:54 am to LSU Coyote
Do any of y'all have experience with the Founders Edition cards straight from Nvidia? There's a good deal locally on a 1080 Ti (still above MSRP, of course) but I've read things about the blower being ridiculously loud.
I've always gone EVGA because of their customer service reputation but the prices are ridiculous right now.
I've always gone EVGA because of their customer service reputation but the prices are ridiculous right now.
Posted on 2/21/18 at 11:03 am to Korin
FE coolers are the sexiest coolers out there.
They'll certainly be louder, but they aren't "worse" than any other card
They'll certainly be louder, but they aren't "worse" than any other card
Posted on 2/21/18 at 11:13 am to Korin
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Do any of y'all have experience with the Founders Edition cards straight from Nvidia?
Everyone here.
That cooler has been default cooler since OG TITAN in 2013.
Edt: the refined one is the exact same for the most part.
This post was edited on 2/21/18 at 11:14 am
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