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Posted on 9/27/13 at 12:59 am to
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 12:59 am to
Right now my elo is 1727 which puts me in the top 4.87 percent of all the players. LINK
only 15 percent of all ranked players right now are gold 5 or higher. So what percentage do you have to be to be considered good in your eyes.
This post was edited on 9/27/13 at 1:08 am
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 1:06 am to
Your not playing very good people if they are failing as vayne. Its really not hard to beat a caitlyn. Your Lolking score isnt Elo or MMR they use a different formula than riot
This post was edited on 9/27/13 at 1:10 am
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 9/27/13 at 1:09 am to
so the top 5 percent of people in the whole server aren't very good .
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 1:10 am to
Just because they are in the top 5% doesnt mean they can play vayne?
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 1:12 am to
I'm pretty sure the people using vayne at this point have used vayne plenty before and have a good idea at wth they are doing.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 1:19 am to
Well if they are being zoned by caitlyn to the point of not being in the game then they arent very good. Also could be the support matchup. But even then vayne is gonna most likely comeback if the game goes long
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 1:27 am to
How many games last longer than 30 mins? Even if Vayne is able to get to late game with full items it would depend on what type of team she is going against. If she is against a tanky team who can't burst her down fast she will dominate, but if she is against a strong cc or strong assassination team she can be easily nullified.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 1:40 am to
Alot of games do
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 1:44 am to
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Well if they are being zoned by caitlyn to the point of not being in the game then they arent very good.
A great Vayne will lose lane to a Caitlyn with any sense of game knowledge and average skill with Caitlyn. There's a reason it's a HARD counter. No matter how skilled someone is on Vayne, they can't change the fact that Cait will ALWAYS have the advantage in lane, even after 6. Hell, I'd say Cait's advantage grows even larger after 6. Simply because if Vayne loses a poke battle, if she's low enough, Cait can just kill her from even farther out. Late game? Cait will get wrecked by a Vayne 1v1 if they are somehow even 35 minutes into the game, but to say that Vaynes shouldn't be losing to Caits is just dumb. That's like saying a good Khazix should be able to beat Singed in lane. It's just not gonna happen. If both players know how to play their champs.
This post was edited on 9/27/13 at 1:45 am
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 1:45 am to
In solo q games usually snowball to one side or the other and average 25-35 mins long. There are rarely games that get to a point where someone has full items.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4838 posts
Posted on 9/27/13 at 1:50 am to
Okay so the diamond one telling me all this is stupid?
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 9/27/13 at 1:56 am to
if he says to pick vayne into a cait matchup then yes he is wrong on that.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4838 posts
Posted on 9/27/13 at 1:58 am to
Vayne is prefectly fine in a cait matchup. You literally just farm until 6. Am I pick into everytime no. Am I saying its okay if caitlyn is picked after you pick vayne yes. Theres a reason vayne is pretty much permabanned by diamond players
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 1:59 am to
Idk but I just rolled to a 20/5/11 with Cait but there was no Vayne.

I love Cait so much, forgot just how much cuz I've been raping with Eve.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
7310 posts
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:58 am to
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Vayne is prefectly fine in a cait matchup

Post Bork maybe, but vayne post bork can duel almost anyone. Cait should AA vayne every single time she goes for a cs and every time she has a headshot up.
This post was edited on 9/27/13 at 11:58 am
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 9/27/13 at 12:07 pm to
it really doesn't matter if vayne has bork but is a level or two behind and has a kill/cs deficit when she does.

plus if your jungle is just not a fricking moron he will be around bot when vayne hits a power spike
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 12:15 pm to
You are going to be in a minority arguing that Vayne can handle Cait in lane. If skill levels are even, Cait is a hard counter. Cait can even push vayne under turret and still poke vayne away being able to farm under turret. Her range is just that much greater than Vayne's. Cait vs Vayne, that Cait should be bullying the hell out of Vayne and forcing her to give up CS until she falls way behind. If the game lasts long enough and Vayne farms enough after laning phase, she can catch up. But Cait vs Vayne will wind up with Vayne losing lane the majority of the time.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4838 posts
Posted on 9/27/13 at 12:31 pm to
She's suppose to lose the lane.. It's how hard she loses before level 6 that matters. If she doesn't lose hard enough she's going to force fights against you and if miss E she's going to kill you repeatedly
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 9/27/13 at 1:46 pm to
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It's how hard she loses before level 6 that matters. If she doesn't lose hard enough she's going to force fights against you and if miss E she's going to kill you repeatedly

Vaynes ult isn't that dominate . Vayne's ult doesn't fix the problem of making up the distance against cait. As cait you never have an auto attack duel against vayne and even if you miss e you are going to be close to the tower where vayne won't dive you. Then it gets to the point in the game where does your team protect the unfarmed vayne and let cait destroy you or do you just leave vayne to be killed to try to finish off the stronger cait. I don't know why you think vayne has this mythical power to kill everyone at level 6.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4838 posts
Posted on 9/27/13 at 2:21 pm to
Your gonna be close to tower? You just said that you would just push vayne to tower the whole game.
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