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re: Official League of Legends Thread
Posted on 3/28/20 at 7:02 pm to UltimateHog
Posted on 3/28/20 at 7:02 pm to UltimateHog
NA as a whole was weaker last year but yeah not much progress has been made. At least C9 looks like they could be competitive. Last year it was a foregone conclusion NA was gonna get roflstomped at Worlds. We were visibly worse at pretty much everything and the top team was extremely one-dimensional.
I don't expect much this year either but I don't think we're quite as bad collectively.
I don't expect much this year either but I don't think we're quite as bad collectively.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 7:20 pm to Drewbie
Damn see I think there is way less balance. Outside of C9 there isn't anyone and last year we had TL and C9 at least.
Bad bad league when Flyquest is the 2nd best team. Yeesh.
Bad bad league when Flyquest is the 2nd best team. Yeesh.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 7:29 pm to UltimateHog
C9 didn't really look that great domestically last year. They just did what they always do and perform better than expected at Worlds. I do think C9 is at a much higher level than anyone in NA was last year comparatively. I think they'd be ok in a Bo5 against EU's top teams. No way I'd put any other team up to that task, though.
I'll be interested to see how teams start drafting in a series when "experimenting" is over. I want to give some teams the benefit of the doubt but I think we just suck again.
I'll be interested to see how teams start drafting in a series when "experimenting" is over. I want to give some teams the benefit of the doubt but I think we just suck again.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 8:36 pm to Drewbie
So much straight inting from dardoch. When you have an 8-0 azir you dont need to be reaching for questionable picks.
Posted on 3/29/20 at 2:55 pm to Raz
GG beat FQ. NA is a dumpster fire.
God we suck
God we suck
This post was edited on 3/29/20 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 3/29/20 at 5:51 pm to Drewbie
That TL C9 game...
C9 baited TL and beat them with the back door.
What a way to lose a back and forth game like that.
C9 baited TL and beat them with the back door.
What a way to lose a back and forth game like that.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:11 am to SBvital
Bumping the thread with playoff bracket for Spring.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:31 pm to SBvital
How does everyone here approach solo/duo?
I'm going into games with a positive attitude, knowledge of my champion and what the win conditions are for myself and my team comp. I'm not flaming people or being negative.
90% of the time I'm at least going even in lane and trying to help me team via pings, text comm, etc... Even if I "lost" my lane, it's by a kill and a handfull of cs.
For whatever reason, damn near every single game, there's at minimum, 1-2 roles/lanes that hard feed early, and just continue to snow ball the enemy by fighting even though they are down an item, 3 levels and 50 cs. (see 10-0 fizz or 10-0 Kat early)
Meanwhile, the teams we are playing against, are coordinating 3-4 man tower dives, with TP, rotating incredibly well, setting deep wards, and playing around objectives properly.
Why is there such a performance gap between my allies and the opposing team on such a consistent basis?
I recognize I am the common denominator, but how can you overcome games where your team is down 15-4 in the early game? My early play is almost irrelevant as, my team just gets obliterated early, tilts and just gets shite canned for the rest of the game.
The only solace I am taking in all this is that I am only losing 7 LP per loss and gaining 30 per win. (Currently Bronze 2)
FWIW, when I play flex with our 5's group (all Bronze/Silver players) I never have this issue. In Solo/Duo, it just seems like how you play doesn't matter and it all boils down to which team has the lesser number of inept players on it.
I'm going into games with a positive attitude, knowledge of my champion and what the win conditions are for myself and my team comp. I'm not flaming people or being negative.
90% of the time I'm at least going even in lane and trying to help me team via pings, text comm, etc... Even if I "lost" my lane, it's by a kill and a handfull of cs.
For whatever reason, damn near every single game, there's at minimum, 1-2 roles/lanes that hard feed early, and just continue to snow ball the enemy by fighting even though they are down an item, 3 levels and 50 cs. (see 10-0 fizz or 10-0 Kat early)
Meanwhile, the teams we are playing against, are coordinating 3-4 man tower dives, with TP, rotating incredibly well, setting deep wards, and playing around objectives properly.
Why is there such a performance gap between my allies and the opposing team on such a consistent basis?
I recognize I am the common denominator, but how can you overcome games where your team is down 15-4 in the early game? My early play is almost irrelevant as, my team just gets obliterated early, tilts and just gets shite canned for the rest of the game.
The only solace I am taking in all this is that I am only losing 7 LP per loss and gaining 30 per win. (Currently Bronze 2)
FWIW, when I play flex with our 5's group (all Bronze/Silver players) I never have this issue. In Solo/Duo, it just seems like how you play doesn't matter and it all boils down to which team has the lesser number of inept players on it.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:52 pm to dcrews
I go into each game with the mindset that if I dont stomp lane and roll I'll probably lose. If my team is good, then that's a bonus.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:02 pm to Jackie Chan
quote:
I go into each game with the mindset that if I dont stomp lane and roll I'll probably lose. If my team is good, then that's a bonus.
Maybe I need to just spam heavy early game champs.
I typically like to play split pushers top, but maybe that's my issue since that can be very team reliant. Which is crazy since, as Nasus, all I need my team to do is shove waves and not die.
Reqs on top laners that are lane strong early? Darius comes to mind, but he's banned every game, along with Garen.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:19 pm to jefforize
My only complaint about my teammates, really ever, is that they die too often for no reason.
Other than that, I could not care less about their ego, who they pick, them flaming, etc... Just don't fricking die 7 times during laning phase. It's all I'm really asking for
I'm a firm believer that "not dying" is the biggest asset one can have in in the lower elo I am in.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:06 am to dcrews
I dont play enough top to give reqs. I think bans feel more important than picks sometimes.
I mostly play sup or jg. Sup and jg feel the easiest to make an impact on the game for me.
I mostly play sup or jg. Sup and jg feel the easiest to make an impact on the game for me.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:04 am to dcrews
I play mid in solo queue.
My strategy to climb is generally:
1. Have 3-4 champions to play well enough to contribute in my elo and are "meta" champs - my champ pool is currently Cassiopeia, Diana, Anivia, and Velkoz. (I need to get an ad mid in there eventually)
2. Have the mindset that you either carry or roll the dice on if your team works together or not/flames.
3. Find the best second role where you won't be a liability, I queue mid/support. If I get support I play a mage support that I could play mid - that makes me less of a liability. If I get auto filled (usually jungle) I try to play champs of my main role - mainly Diana, and /mute all and do your best.
4. Be positive! I will never flame in a ranked game and try to stay positive. I will always try throw out "wp" or "gj top/bot" "gj guys" in an attempt to keep my team together. If people start flaming I try to get them back in the game. If they don't and continue to tilt, /mute all and just finish the game, ff, or whatever. Just don't tilt because it always carries to the next game.. whether you believe it or not.
5. If you lose two and a row, stop. Break and pick it up another game. In seasons past I would always think "this game is going to be different" and get in and play tilted and end up losing. The previous losses may not have even been my fault, but I always play worse on a loss streak trying too hard to carry or win the game.
All of these can probably be common knowledge and in videos on Youtube or whatever, but I've really started to follow it and seen some solid results this season.
My strategy to climb is generally:
1. Have 3-4 champions to play well enough to contribute in my elo and are "meta" champs - my champ pool is currently Cassiopeia, Diana, Anivia, and Velkoz. (I need to get an ad mid in there eventually)
2. Have the mindset that you either carry or roll the dice on if your team works together or not/flames.
3. Find the best second role where you won't be a liability, I queue mid/support. If I get support I play a mage support that I could play mid - that makes me less of a liability. If I get auto filled (usually jungle) I try to play champs of my main role - mainly Diana, and /mute all and do your best.
4. Be positive! I will never flame in a ranked game and try to stay positive. I will always try throw out "wp" or "gj top/bot" "gj guys" in an attempt to keep my team together. If people start flaming I try to get them back in the game. If they don't and continue to tilt, /mute all and just finish the game, ff, or whatever. Just don't tilt because it always carries to the next game.. whether you believe it or not.
5. If you lose two and a row, stop. Break and pick it up another game. In seasons past I would always think "this game is going to be different" and get in and play tilted and end up losing. The previous losses may not have even been my fault, but I always play worse on a loss streak trying too hard to carry or win the game.
All of these can probably be common knowledge and in videos on Youtube or whatever, but I've really started to follow it and seen some solid results this season.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:14 am to dcrews
quote:
Nasus
I wouldn't play Nasus IMO. Too easily camped and needs to wait too long to scale up.
Split pushers are risky to play because you risk splitting "too much" (according to your team) and others will force unnecessary fights wile you try to create pressure and will lose 90% of time... then flame you for not grouping. Tryndamere, Camille, Fiora would be split pushers I would play if I went that route.
If I were playing top, I would play Morde, Wukong (banned a lot) or a tank like Malphite/Maokai/Ornn. A couple of seasons ago I would play Teemo if I got a top and had a decent win rate. I feel like Teemo is a solid Solo queue champ because he's so damn annoying.
I look at a few things when I pick my champs - CC, how annoying they are, and safety. I say annoying because when you have 4-5 people not in voice and having to build synergy in 15 minutes it's not going to be organized. If you throw in annoying chaos it will throw them off.
Hope some of these tips help.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:34 pm to SBvital
Tips are solid.
I'll sometimes get annoyed/aggravated, but never enough to get me to ignore my win con or start running it down mid. If I get legit tilted/angry, I will usually just stop playing for the day and hop on another game or watch tv.
On the Nasus comment, once I hit 6, I start winning my lane or further my lead if I already have one. I get tier 1, and force their team to react to me getting top tier 2. After that I'll swap down bot, get tier 1, then tier 2. At this point, they have to send 3 people to kill me.
Problem is, teams don't understand how to fight/stall 4v5's under tower while I'm solo pushing objectives. It's such an easy win condition to me, but people just don't understand how to play around it.
I've had people in here and outside of TD basically give me the same of advice of just face rolling my lane early and having to hard carry. So I am going to swap my play up to champions that can do that.
Going to experiment in normals for a bit on Fiora, Morde and maybe Reneketon. Darius and Garen are really fun, but they are banned damn near every game.
Teemo is my second highest mastery champion, so I'm sure I can work him in there, especially since I've always had great success with him against a frequent opponent pick in Darius.
I'll sometimes get annoyed/aggravated, but never enough to get me to ignore my win con or start running it down mid. If I get legit tilted/angry, I will usually just stop playing for the day and hop on another game or watch tv.
On the Nasus comment, once I hit 6, I start winning my lane or further my lead if I already have one. I get tier 1, and force their team to react to me getting top tier 2. After that I'll swap down bot, get tier 1, then tier 2. At this point, they have to send 3 people to kill me.
Problem is, teams don't understand how to fight/stall 4v5's under tower while I'm solo pushing objectives. It's such an easy win condition to me, but people just don't understand how to play around it.
I've had people in here and outside of TD basically give me the same of advice of just face rolling my lane early and having to hard carry. So I am going to swap my play up to champions that can do that.
Going to experiment in normals for a bit on Fiora, Morde and maybe Reneketon. Darius and Garen are really fun, but they are banned damn near every game.
Teemo is my second highest mastery champion, so I'm sure I can work him in there, especially since I've always had great success with him against a frequent opponent pick in Darius.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:37 pm to Jackie Chan
quote:
I think bans feel more important than picks sometimes.
Darius is usually an auto ban for me.
Yas is my second ban, because it's a double whammy. I don't want to have to play against a good one and 100% of the time one is on my team, it's like the person playing him only has one arm.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:54 pm to dcrews
MAD Lions take down G2 3-2 in the first round of LEC playoffs.
Massive upset.
Massive upset.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:14 pm to UltimateHog
that is a huge upset ! kinda like a 16 seed taking down a 1 seed lol
Posted on 4/3/20 at 5:07 pm to dcrews
quote:Not sober.
How does everyone here approach solo/duo?
quote:I feel attacked.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 5:13 pm
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