re: Nintendo Labo

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Anyone who studies successful creative culture knows that a huge part of it is not letting fear of failure (or past failure) slow your roll. That’s probably the biggest thing that separates Nintendo from others. They aren’t afraid to put some weird shite out there that fails.

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I can get behind that.

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Of course they do, just like every other developer. But I don't see them getting it from Labo. Am I supposed to believe that they go down the hall and play with a Labo and it will inspire the next great Zelda? Sorry, I am not buying that.

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That's super specific. Will the next Zelda game be Labo inspired? Maybe, maybe not, no one knows. But you can tell they mix and match ideas all of the time.

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Please name these identifying things in BOTW that makes it Nintendo? Outside of it being a great game and a long running Nintendo IP? Something that came from these out of the box ideas. We are talking about BOTW and how it relates to Labo like ideas, let's stay on topic.

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I laughed at the idea that you think ideas like Labo lead to games like BOTW. Sure for other games, but this notion you have of out of the box ideas like that leading into great games like BOTW just does not show it's face in the game. Where is it? Wait, I think there was a motion control scheme for puzzles, that went over well. Or do I need to just believe the state of mind of having those ideas makes them more creative? Is it a psychological thing? Do we need to get the creative juices flowing?

Maybe I am being obtuse.

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You just took the comment way too specifically. Maybe that's on me, it was a quick late night comment.

All I mean is that generally, Nintendo's experimenting is exactly why they create thing like BotW and exactly why they are Nintendo. And this is proof positive of that, whether or not it succeeds, I'm glad, and people should be glad, that they do these types of things. If you like unique and great video games at least, this is one of the big reasons why they create those types of games.

All of this "playing around" creating weird things, leads to BotW, and Splatoon, and Mario Party, and Nintendoland, and Pikmin, and Wii Music, and so forth. It doesn't necessarily manifest specifically in BotW as an tool, or control scheme, or any mechanic, but it does help them stay loose and think outside the box and solve design challenges in innovative ways. (I mean Wii Music was partially born from Ocarina, Skyward Sword had the Wiimote interaction, BotW owes it's introduction to the concepts from OoT and SM64, the Glider was the new Boat+Mario Kart, etc.). The korok's are BotW's rendition of hidden stars. Now the cycle is in BotW, that's nuts. It's clear they often borrow, expand, iterate from game to game, property to property. And that's a good thing, always has been.

Is it crazy to think that the Labo Fishing Rod might later lead them to rethink fishing controls? Or the piano might inspire them to bring music back into the next Zelda?

Funny enough, my Wind Waker Wii U came with an extra stand that I had to assemble..... Made of Gold Cardboard.

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You just took the comment way too specifically

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I did. I was being very specific with how quirky ideas related to BOTW. Eiji Aonuma is the greatest game director of all time IMO, his vision is what makes that game great.

But either way, good discussion.

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I did. I was being very specific with how quirky ideas related to BOTW.

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And they do.

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Eiji Aonuma is the greatest game director of all time IMO, his vision is what makes that game great.

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Agreed. He takes all the pieces and always crafts something pretty fantastic.

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But either way, good discussion.

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Always. I'm not even sure I buy this thing, but I still like that they are doing it

Good little video essay here about some parts of Nintendo's design

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These things will be popular for 2 weeks and then nobody will give a crap about it ever again.

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Sure that's possible. It's also possible we haven't seen the best uses of this yet. Best to give it time, like the Switch.

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Do they really think people want to assemble cardboard crap to play games? Like that's the future of gaming?

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No one, including Nintendo, thinks this is the future of gaming. That's not how it's being marketed.

Are some of you so negative about it because you think this is Nintendi's "Next Gen hardware," seriously?

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These things are nothing more than cheap do it yourself gimmick controllers.

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That's a bit reductive, but yes. They are an attempt to bring video games into the physical space, while giving kids a creative outlet, and a little bit of learning via engineering. Nothing wrong with that.

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That's a bit reductive, but yes. They are an attempt to bring video games into the physical space, while giving kids a creative outlet, and a little bit of learning via engineering. Nothing wrong with that.

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This seems to be a recurring obsession of Nintendo. From the Wii to the WiiU to the Switch to Amiibos to this... they want to bend and transform the way we interact with technology and push the boundaries between tech and life.

It's similar to what Apple was rumored to be attempting with their purchase of Beats and move to wearables. Both companies are predicting that wearable/cyborg tech is going to be the next iteration, so they're playing around in that space.

Its not a video game console its a game.