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Jedi Survivor Spoiler thread: Full game spoilers

Posted on 5/3/23 at 11:49 pm
Posted by td01241
Savannah
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 11:49 pm
Holy shite dude this story went from 0 to 100.

Using the dark side was sick. So was fighting Vader as Cere.
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 1:56 am
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/4/23 at 1:44 am to
Was alright, I feel like I enjoyed the story of 1 better. Dagan was wasted in how badass he couldve been, and Bode was predictable and annoying. I take it his daughter will eventually be able to use the force as well.

Wish it was like Red Dead in a way where your in game actions can determine the outcome of the game.

The more bad you do, the more in the Darkside you can grow in. Learning force lightning and etc.

Sounds like I'd just like another force unleashed game as well.
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 1:51 am
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22844 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 1:58 am to
I seem to hold it in much higher of a regard than you. The story is slow as frick for a long time but basically once you get crossguard and really once you take control of cere everything just goes to 100 and an all out rollercoaster on the edge of my seat.

I agree they killed dagan and ravis too early so we knew someone had to be the real big bad and we did fight vader too before chapter 5.

I really like what it has going set up for the final part of the trilogy with Cal and the darkside. I wouldve put money on Merrin dying not Cere or Cordova.
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 1:59 am
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22844 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:01 am to
I also need to do a full replay to really get the deeper lore implications with the high republic and stuff better as well which im about to do in NG plus on grandmaster although I did get all 10 perk slots and a ton of upgrades.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:12 am to
I hope Merrin and him can build a life together, maybe he listens to people and realizes him and Merrin are stronger together.

Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22844 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:14 am to
You can only use the red lightsaber on ng plus? Thats lame I wanted to clean up a few things first. Also the perk that increases both player and enemy damage for ng plus sounds fun.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:20 am to
Wish Cal and BD1 would've made an appearance in Kenobi as "the jedi they are looking for", in episode 1. Faking us out like they were on to Obiwan..But, instead its revealed to be Cal. And instead of killing the one that they did in the early episode, Cal gets away without us knowing too much of what happened. Then it gets tied in with this game and we see what happens after the events of Kenobi.

Being this takes place in the same year, it was a hard one for Vader. Got his arse kicked by 2 lesser warriors.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:24 am to
Cere certainly didnt feel like a lesser warrior
She mowed people the frick down. It took me like 5 tries to beat Vader on the second hardest difficulty. All deaths were in phase 3 so I had to do the first 2 easy ones again each time. I have a feeling on grandmaster he will use his unbelievably powerful unblockable attack a lot more in phase three where he does something like Melanias waterfowl.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:26 am to
quote:

Cere certainly didnt feel like a lesser warrior
She certainly is though, I enjoyed the scenes and how the battle ended.

But at no point should it ever really have been that close.

They should have shown him still damaged from the battle with Obi-Wan if they were going to make it that close.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22844 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:30 am to
Yeah I agree. Honestly I thought when the cutscene transition to phase 3 happens after he gets rubble dropped on him hed emerge and kill her so it would only be a take him to half health fight. I think it was a 10% left though.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22844 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 9:23 am to
Has anyone come anywhere even remotely close to beating the double rancor arena fight?
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22844 posts
Posted on 5/6/23 at 1:13 pm to
Have only 2 of us beaten the game? Slackers
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68438 posts
Posted on 5/7/23 at 1:06 am to
Just finished. Overall I think it was an improvement over Fallen Order. I give it an 8.5 or 9/10.

I just have never liked Cere even in the first game. Her death didn’t really have an emotional impact on me. I know she was a Jedi master but there’s no way in my opinion she should have come that close to beating Vader.

I really liked the Cal and Merrin romance. Also thought the twist with Bode was solid. I didn’t see it coming at all. Greez is still my favorite side character.

Awesome game and awesome job by the developers. Like I said, the game’s biggest issue for me is Cere. And also how they seemingly completely wasted Dagan. A high republic jedi who is still alive, bleeds a crystal and becomes evil? That’s amazing. I wish they wouldn’t have cut his story so short. It feels like he could have stuck around and been developed way more than he was
This post was edited on 5/7/23 at 1:08 am
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22844 posts
Posted on 5/7/23 at 1:38 am to
Its been noticed by myself and ive seen it posted on other boards the only reason Cere even held her own against Vader is uttered by her final line before battle begins. She had let go of her fear. I believe that was the message the devs wanted to get across. They also did this by making you play as her and have her saber strikes do noticeably more damage than cals, altered force abilities, less stims than you have by far, and no outline of her move set. Almost a ludonarrative way of making the player let go of their fear.

Also I didnt notice it the first time but replaying the game on grandmaster I figured out Vader is a bit of a bait and switch gimmick fight but youre very unlikely to pick that up on a first run.
This post was edited on 5/7/23 at 1:40 am
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

I really liked the Cal and Merrin romance. Also thought the twist with Bode was solid.


Ditto. I could see Bode being the traitor a mile away, but I definitely never saw the jedi part coming.

Just imagine how powerful Cal and Merrin's kids would be if they ended up force sensitive...
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9759 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 7:53 pm to
The fight where they make you play as Cere to fight Darth Vader is awful, and is one of those tired video game tropes where if you die it's game over but if you win, you die in a cutscene
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33849 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:08 pm to
That fight gave me fits. I had rounds where dodge outright didn't happen. One time he started out with phase 3 attacks right from the beginning
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

Its been noticed by myself and ive seen it posted on other boards the only reason Cere even held her own against Vader is uttered by her final line before battle begins. She had let go of her fear.


He should have still been recovering from that Kenobi battle with Obi-Wan. A weakened Vader still on the warpath.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22844 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 5:42 am to
It’s also a total gimmick fight with the way it’s coded. I never picked this up at all on my first run through but fricking around on grandmaster on my way through the second time I noticed there’s very very very strictly coded triggers to get him to do exactly what you want him to do and the best way to kill him is your bait out his most devastating grab attack back step out of range and strike 3 times. I enjoyed the story implications of the fight, it’s fallout on the rest of our cast, ceres sacrifice basically everything about it. The mechanics surrounding the fight and how they don’t give you any sort of outline of Ceres moveset like they have on the pause screen for Cal make it the absolute worst boss fight in the game though.

If you can’t pull off the move baiting above like I suggested the second easiest way to kill him is to be hyper aggressive like one of those giant claw swinging things on Jedha. Strike 2-3 times parry parry parry strike strike strike and never ever give him a moment to breath. You have to have lightning quick reflexes for this though because if you don’t keep the pressure enough or if you can’t triggger him into one of the mash square QTEs he will grab you and killl you
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 5:47 am
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22844 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 5:49 am to
Aside from the talk of the Vader fight anyone have any ideas/thoughts/theories about where they go with the final part of the trilogy?
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