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Posted on 8/12/18 at 7:20 pm to
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/12/18 at 7:20 pm to
No good. how much you wanna spend?
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
40752 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 7:50 pm to
I think the one I built back in ‘12/‘13 was $750ish. Might try to keep it around that.

What exactly is wrong with it? For the monitor, keyboard it seemed like a good deal. Is the tower components old?
This post was edited on 8/12/18 at 7:52 pm
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22574 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 8:56 pm to
The guy basically got hosed and is trying to recoup his money.

This one with the 8400 and 580 4GB. LINK

Find a monitor with freesync.

Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
40752 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:04 pm to
So that’s a good deal? Can’t build it cheaper?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22574 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:55 pm to
I didn't know you wanted to build. I can figure out something. Give me time.
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
46480 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:57 pm to
good idea going for the 1080.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22574 posts
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:21 pm to
PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($85.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($149.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($27.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($67.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($197.04 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Logitech - G Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard ($109.59 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech - G502 Proteus Spectrum Wired Optical Mouse ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $932.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-12 23:43 EDT-0400

This does not have a dedicated GPU but uses the Ryzen 5's APU. You can easily get 60fps on fortnite. You can then save to buy a dedicated GPU and get much better performance. Also with the GTX 11xx coming out, you could get a better deal on the 10xx or wait for the 11xx.

Get something like a Razer Deathadder elite, Logitech G502 for the mouse

Corsair or Logitech keyboard. Cherry MX Red or the Romer switches on Logitech.

I would try to get a 144hz monitor if you can for upgrade potential but there are tons of 75hz monitors. TN panels are cheaper and have 1ms response times. I don't know if AMD freesync works on the APU but it would be nice if would. (looked it up and I think it does with a Display port cable).

Also, you can get good deals by shopping for refurb products on ebay. I got my keyboard that was 170 for 89 and an additional 15% off with those codes they always run. You could bring this into the 800's if you looked around .
This post was edited on 8/12/18 at 10:44 pm
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19563 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 12:54 am to
Yea that's a terrible way to spend $932
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22574 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 2:24 am to
no it's not lol

That's with thinking about the future. He could also look for deals to get that way down. Mine was like 1900 and I got all my stuff for like 1400 or something.

Keep in mind that's with about 300 in monitor, keyboard, and mouse.

it's like 530 for the desktop
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 2:27 am
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22574 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 2:41 am to
PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.89 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI - B360 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($82.73 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($27.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card ($144.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($67.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($197.04 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair - STRAFE Wired Gaming Keyboard ($77.95 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech - G502 Proteus Spectrum Wired Optical Mouse ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1003.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-13 03:40 EDT-0400


This is a better complete system for a little more but it is still over his 750 budget by a good bit. It's 678 without monitor,keyboard, and mouse.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54442 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:07 am to
Getting a $160 APU for a dedicated gaming PC is not the smartest idea.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19563 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 8:14 am to
And getting a $100 keyboard with no graphics card
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22574 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:31 am to
It is accounting for waiting for the new Nvidia cards coming out and prices for the 10xx coming down.

If he wants only to game at 75hz then I would go ahead and put a GPU in there but I assume he wants higher.

Peripherals were just a suggestion to cut cost on upgrading later.

Also, I think he plays fortnite and it runs it at good settings for 60-70 fps. Any higher and he would need a 120-144 hz monitor.
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 10:36 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19563 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:32 am to
You build the computer first and then worry about peripherals especially at that budget.

If you have an $800 budget including peripherals, you build the best PC possible and get the cheapest peripherals to hold you over.

Only thing I'd recommend a new PC builder to buy is a mouse since that is far more important than a keyboard
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22574 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:38 am to
I understand that but the desktop is only ~550 and the new gpus are coming out. He could play at console fps and get used to mouse and keyboard until they come out.

Plus, that second build I did would most likely run fortnite 144+fps and he would need that monitor anyway otherwise there would be no need for the extra power. I lowered the keyboard price but even if he got a cheaper one, that would only be like 30 difference.
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 10:42 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19563 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 10:55 am to
quote:

I understand that but the desktop is only ~550 and the new gpus are coming out. He could play at console fps and get used to mouse and keyboard until they come out.


But it has a fricking APU for christ sake as its processor. Get a 2600 or 8400 instead for the same price
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22574 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:21 am to
PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($165.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($27.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($27.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 4GB Dual Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $684.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-13 12:21 EDT-0400

Needs another storage drive but couldn't add it on mobile. +55
This post was edited on 8/13/18 at 11:22 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19563 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:24 am to
That's almost the exact build I was going to post

I think my differences were a 256gb HDD and a 1tb HDD, but either way works
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
40752 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:24 am to
that list says it will require an adapter for the cpu cooler and the motherboard may need a bios update.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22574 posts
Posted on 8/13/18 at 11:25 am to
It might need a different cooler but I think it says that for every ryzen 2nd Gen.
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