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FPS vs Refresh Rate (Gaming PC question)
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 7/2/18 at 3:38 pm
I'm going to be building a gaming PC in the near future and will be on a budget. If I buy a 144Hz monitor, it really doesn't matter that I get say 160 fps from my cpu/gpu because it will cap at 144?
So in a hypothetical situation I have 2 cpu/gpu combinations of an i5 8600k/ 1060 6GB and a i7 8700k/ 1080Ti. If the i5 combo is capable of 135 fps on a certain game and the the i7 is capable of 185 fps, would it really only be a net difference of 9 fps because the i7 combo is limited to 144? Would it just be better to just get the cheaper set and upgrade the gpu later when the costs go down and the 240 monitors go down?
eta another example
So CS:GO looks like it will handle almost any cpu/gpu combo over 144 fps. Does that mean really any decent cpu/gpu would max out a 144 monitor?
So in a hypothetical situation I have 2 cpu/gpu combinations of an i5 8600k/ 1060 6GB and a i7 8700k/ 1080Ti. If the i5 combo is capable of 135 fps on a certain game and the the i7 is capable of 185 fps, would it really only be a net difference of 9 fps because the i7 combo is limited to 144? Would it just be better to just get the cheaper set and upgrade the gpu later when the costs go down and the 240 monitors go down?
eta another example
So CS:GO looks like it will handle almost any cpu/gpu combo over 144 fps. Does that mean really any decent cpu/gpu would max out a 144 monitor?
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 4:36 pm
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 4:28 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
quote:
If I buy a 144Hz monitor, it really doesn't matter that I get say 160 fps from my cpu/gpu because it will cap at 144?
You got it, but the more important thing is frame drops. An i5/1060 will average 135 so it'll have more significant drops in frames, which suck arse.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 4:37 pm to bluebarracuda
quote:
135 so it'll have more significant drops in frames, which suck arse.
That's what I figured on the dropped frames. So if I found something with the .1% or 1% at an acceptable fps, I should be fine with that combo?
Posted on 7/2/18 at 5:33 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
Yes sir. Even though I would get the i7 and 1080ti because it's amazing 
Posted on 7/2/18 at 6:35 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
Welcome to the master race, it is glorious. What are you anticipating playing?
Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:40 pm to burgeman
fortnite, destiny 2, whatever else
Posted on 7/3/18 at 12:18 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
Hit me up if you need any help. Pretty sure you live a couple minutes away, right?
Posted on 7/3/18 at 12:34 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
Bruh you gotta try the pubg cancer on PC
Posted on 7/3/18 at 12:37 am to ILikeLSUToo
quote:
couple minutes away, right?
yeah, off of frenchtown
Posted on 7/3/18 at 12:38 am to bluebarracuda
quote:
Bruh you gotta try the pubg cancer on PC
I probably will at least try it but man, it looks to be dying though. Fortnite just did that rocket thing that was literally the coolest thing I've ever experienced in video games.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 12:40 am to ILikeLSUToo
quote:
ILikeLSUToo
You whole yet after the flood?
Posted on 7/3/18 at 12:53 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
Yeah, I was basically done with construction in late 2016.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:03 am to ILikeLSUToo
That's good to hear!
I was thinking around this.
CPU
AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor
$209.89 FREE $209.89 OutletPC
Buy
CPU Cooler
Noctua - NH-U9S 46.4 CFM CPU Cooler
$57.19 FREE $57.19 Newegg
Buy
Motherboard
MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard
$84.89 -$15.00 FREE $69.89 OutletPC
Buy
$15.00 mail-in rebate
Memory
G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
$89.88 FREE $89.88 OutletPC
Buy
Add Additional Memory
Storage Choose Storage
Video Card
MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GT OCV1 Video Card
$295.99 -$20.00 FREE $275.99 Newegg
Buy
$20.00 mail-in rebate
Case
NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case
$49.99 $49.99 SuperBiiz
Buy
Power Supply
EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
$89.99 -$20.00 FREE $69.99 B&H
Buy
$822
or
CPU
Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor
$238.99 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime $238.99 Amazon
Buy
CPU Cooler
Noctua - NH-U9S 46.4 CFM CPU Cooler
$57.19 FREE $57.19 Newegg
Buy
Motherboard
MSI - Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
$109.99 -$20.00 FREE $89.99 Newegg
Buy
$20.00 mail-in rebate
Memory
G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
$89.88 FREE $89.88 OutletPC
Buy
Add Additional Memory
Storage Choose Storage
Video Card
MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GT OCV1 Video Card
$295.99 -$20.00 FREE $275.99 Newegg
Buy
$20.00 mail-in rebate
Case
NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case
$49.99 $49.99 SuperBiiz
Buy
Power Supply
EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
$89.99 -$20.00 FREE $69.99 B&H
Buy
$20.00 mail-in rebate
$872
Already have 500GB SSD
I was thinking around this.
CPU
AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor
$209.89 FREE $209.89 OutletPC
Buy
CPU Cooler
Noctua - NH-U9S 46.4 CFM CPU Cooler
$57.19 FREE $57.19 Newegg
Buy
Motherboard
MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard
$84.89 -$15.00 FREE $69.89 OutletPC
Buy
$15.00 mail-in rebate
Memory
G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
$89.88 FREE $89.88 OutletPC
Buy
Add Additional Memory
Storage Choose Storage
Video Card
MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GT OCV1 Video Card
$295.99 -$20.00 FREE $275.99 Newegg
Buy
$20.00 mail-in rebate
Case
NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case
$49.99 $49.99 SuperBiiz
Buy
Power Supply
EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
$89.99 -$20.00 FREE $69.99 B&H
Buy
$822
or
CPU
Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor
$238.99 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime $238.99 Amazon
Buy
CPU Cooler
Noctua - NH-U9S 46.4 CFM CPU Cooler
$57.19 FREE $57.19 Newegg
Buy
Motherboard
MSI - Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
$109.99 -$20.00 FREE $89.99 Newegg
Buy
$20.00 mail-in rebate
Memory
G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
$89.88 FREE $89.88 OutletPC
Buy
Add Additional Memory
Storage Choose Storage
Video Card
MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GT OCV1 Video Card
$295.99 -$20.00 FREE $275.99 Newegg
Buy
$20.00 mail-in rebate
Case
NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case
$49.99 $49.99 SuperBiiz
Buy
Power Supply
EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
$89.99 -$20.00 FREE $69.99 B&H
Buy
$20.00 mail-in rebate
$872
Already have 500GB SSD
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:05 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
Or I could try to find a used 980 Ti instead of the 1060. I was adding a Ryzen build because it would be multi use and not just gaming.
Pretty surprised though that the 8600k can be OC to at or near 5Ghz.
I only plan on doing 1080P and don't need to play on high settings. I go for more performance.
Pretty surprised though that the 8600k can be OC to at or near 5Ghz.
I only plan on doing 1080P and don't need to play on high settings. I go for more performance.
This post was edited on 7/3/18 at 1:09 am
Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:06 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
I think you're fine with either build, but I would favor Intel's IPC, unless you opt for a Ryzen CPU with more than 6 cores.
I would get 2 x 4gb of ram instead of 8gb single stick. Symmetry dammit.
I would get 2 x 4gb of ram instead of 8gb single stick. Symmetry dammit.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 9:52 am to ILikeLSUToo
quote:
2 x 4gb o
I was going to get another stick of 8Gb later if needed. That's why I went with the 1x instead of 2x4. How would you like the "symmetry" of 2x4 and a 1x8? Eew
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:10 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
Fair enough. Also, I wouldn't necessarily count on a budget z270 board to get that i5 to 5ghz regardless of cooling. Not a bad motherboard, just not one built for overvolting much.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:33 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
I am currently trying to piece together a rig. My PS4 squad has forced my hand. They are abandoning console-ship. I'm looking at an i5 8600k/1070 ti combo.
This post was edited on 7/3/18 at 10:34 am
Posted on 7/3/18 at 10:34 am to ILikeLSUToo
quote:
z270
Did you mean a 270 or 370? I listed a 370. Either way, it probably depends on the individual 8600k.
You think I should downgrade the cooler or power supply and upgrade Mobo?
This post was edited on 7/3/18 at 11:10 am
Posted on 7/3/18 at 11:12 am to LSUmakemewanna
I'm not going to abandon console. I just think I would like PC gaming.
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