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re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard - Official Release Date Trailer

Posted on 8/17/24 at 7:03 am to
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 7:03 am to
Because I have neither the time nor the inclination to go out and search for proof to something that’s so obvious to anyone who is observing things and just looking at the truth. How about this, you back up your declaration with some proof? I guarantee it’ll come from somewhere either with a financial motive to support it or a political one:

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Not my intention


Yes it is. There’s no other purpose than to use the absolutely ridiculous term incel which is just a catch all boogie man for again, people who have your philosophical principles and means actually nothing.

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Saw this yesterday


Yeah as did I. It seem you just like the creator of the video, who solely plays cod and I think valorant so his opinion on this is worthless, doesn’t understand what’s actually happening and falsely classifying it as we all want games to fail, which we absolutely do but not for the reasons you’d claim or assume. We are tired of mediocre, broken, un inspired, DEI driven committee slop being turned out over and over with rare exceptions. So yes, I want them to fail because I want them to feel pain and be forced to reverting back to actual quality. It’s not because we hate games
This post was edited on 8/17/24 at 7:04 am
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 7:05 am to
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They made a decision to abandon Andromeda for Anthem. Literally pulled all but a skeleton crew from ME:A , because they thought Anthem was the next big IP So can they? I have my doubts.

Again, not a guarantee, at all. But my point is that the mistake you’re describing has already occurred and was an utter catastrophe for them. Since then, they’ve circled the wagons a bit and are going back to their two classic IPs: DA and ME. If they learned their lesson, this game likely won’t be a disaster. If the lesson they learned was “we did nothing wrong, new IPs are just hard; let’s do the same thing, but with an old IP!” It will be a disaster. My over arching issue with this thread is that it’s filled with this sentiment:
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Why are you defending something that’s without failed gaurenteed to be absolute shite?

Without fail, guaranteed? And this isn’t my picking on td; multiple people on this thread believe it’s a fact that this game will be awful and anyone who thinks that there’s even a chance the game won’t be a disaster is “coping”. Which prompts me to ask the question I asked earlier: then why are these guys here? Why are they watching the trailers? Does voicing that kind of fatalist pessimism bring them joy?

Posted by td01241
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 7:08 am to
See my response to sicboy above about why yes I want this game and others like it who are essentially doing nothing but desecrating the corpse of once loved franchise to fail and fail so badly it’s unable to be waved away. It’s not for a pessimistic reasons ir because I want gaming to heal
This post was edited on 8/17/24 at 7:09 am
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 7:12 am to
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See my response to sicboy above about why yes I want this game and others like it who are essentially doing nothing but desecrating the corpse of once loved franchise to fail and fail so badly it’s unable to be waved away. It’s not for a pessimistic reasons ir because I want gaming to heal

All this from one trailer?
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absolutely do but not for the reasons you’d claim or assume. We are tired of mediocre, broken, un inspired, DEI driven committee slop being turned out over and over with rare exceptions. So yes, I want them to fail because I want them to feel pain and be forced to reverting back to actual quality. It’s not because we hate games

I’m getting a sneaking suspicion that the bolded bit is carrying far more weight in your analysis than anything else, and perhaps everything else combined.
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 7:18 am to
All this from one trailer

All of this from the past 6-7 years


You’re welcome to make that assumption. Because you’d be correct that a lot of the problems stem from those hiring practices and the people they’ve allowed into their companies. Idk why this is so hard to comprehend for people. It’s not even hard to comprehend it logically. When you go through a period of mass hiring people industry wide, many who have no interest at in actually video games nor do they play them, who are above all else activist first and alway will be then the product will inevitably be worse in all ways. The writing is worse, the women are all uglier than the ps3 generation, almost no one is innovative anymore or pushing the industry forward because again, that isn’t their goal. Making good games for gamers to enjoy is not why they’re there. In fact many many of them are quite open about how they hate gamers.

Look I harp on the political reasons games are in an absolute terrible state in a general sense (don’t misunderstand me though there are still good and even great games that release) because it’s by far the most glaringly obvious problem and should be the easiest to fix. There’s other factors as well of course nothing is almost every a single factor outcome.
This post was edited on 8/17/24 at 7:19 am
Posted by Devious
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 7:18 am to
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sicboy
it's like there's only one right answer you can have after watching a two minute snapshot
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 8:09 am to
I typed in "Dragon Age" in the Twitter search bar and "Dragon Age Impressions" into Google and I'm literally not seeing much, if any, negative responses. The only reason I know there's some push back on the look of it is because of this board.

I'm sure if I was doom scrolling for it I would find something, but I've learned over the years that if you're constantly looking for something to be upset about, you're going to be a miserable person.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 8:11 am to
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it's like there's only one right answer you can have after watching a two minute snapshot


If you're looking for a duck shape in the clouds, you're going to find a duck shape.
Posted by Devious
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 8:21 am to
It's fine to say the game looks bad. We're all entitled to our opinion. But to call it a guaranteed failure based on a release date trailer is just silly. But, hey, that's the world we live in now. Hyperbole is fact.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 8:24 am to
Just...back it up.

The "if you can't see why blah blah blah" argument without any facts to support what were clearly not seeing isn't the win they think it is.
This post was edited on 8/17/24 at 8:27 am
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 8:38 am to
So you looked up access media news, people with a financial motive, and believe the types of people inclined to comment on the official BioWare account for this game, people with a political motive, is indicative of gamer sentiment at large? Bring some receipts of actual sentiment from people not paid to promote it via advertising or people who don’t even buy the game they simply support what it represents politically.

You know how I can say definitely this will be a failure? Because none of these “modern audience” inspired reimagining if you’re inclined to be kind or desecration if you’re not has ever been successful or not been a total failure. At least within the past 5 years when people really got annoyed and noticed with this stuff.

When this game bombs so hard BioWare is bulldozed to the ground I’ll bump this thread
This post was edited on 8/17/24 at 8:39 am
Posted by Devious
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 8:39 am to
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td01241
You're something. It's rare to see people so spun up about their video game opinions.
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 8:41 am to
Lol am I “spun up?” I’m simply offering the reality we live in as I see it. I’m sure when the inevitably occurrs this game is absolutely mocked and makes no money you’ll be around to own being wrong yes?
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 8:45 am to
Your reality is just that, your reality, which is an opinion. And no one is making any claims about it being a failure or a success except you.

You're missing the point we're trying to make.
Posted by Devious
Elitist
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 8:45 am to
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you’ll be around to own being wrong yes?
Wrong about what? I haven't said anything about the game

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I’m simply offering the reality we live in as I see it.
In other words...your opinion. You're just positioning it as absolute fact. Which it's not. It's just your perspective.

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I’m sure when the inevitably occurrs this game is absolutely mocked
Okay. Congrats on being right on the internet I guess
Posted by td01241
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 8:47 am to
No. That’s a post modern philosophical idea that’s one of the most dumb things anyone has ever thought up. There’s no my truth or your truth. There’s no my reality or your reality. There’s just the truth and reality and the ability to make future predictions and assumptions based on evidence applicable to the discussion that is undeniable and exists in reality that points to this being an embarrassing failure.
This post was edited on 8/17/24 at 8:48 am
Posted by Devious
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 8:48 am to
Brah...video game opinions are not indicative of post modern thought.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 8:48 am to
You're making an assumption. I didn't search "what does IGN think of DA" If you understand how twitter works, it pulls up anybody on their with an account who's taking about the game, not just the big outlets.

Again, you're desperate to be right about this game failing,
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 8:49 am to
Holy shite
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/17/24 at 8:50 am to
This entire discussion is so far above your head you should likely bow out of it. The only other option is you’re intentionally misrepresenting what I’m talking about in a motte and Bailey logical fallacy which is extremely common among post modernist so I wouldn’t doubt it.

At least I know for a fact sicboy knows what is being discussed both on the lower level being video games and on the higher philosophical leve which is why I respect him
This post was edited on 8/17/24 at 8:52 am
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