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Wine (learning/beginners course)

Posted on 7/8/21 at 7:11 pm
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 7/8/21 at 7:11 pm
Anyone have any good online resources they would recommend for someone who enjoys wine, but doesn’t particularly know a lot about it?

I’m planning a trip to Italy for September/Octoberish of 2022 and intend to spend 3 or 4 days in the Tuscany region just popping around to different towns and wineries and would really like to increase my wine knowledge/appreciation to increase my enjoyment.
Posted by r3lay3r
EBR
Member since Oct 2016
2641 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 7:29 pm to
I would try your local wine stores. Steve Staples (works for a local distributor) used to do a series courses thur LSU's leisure courses, this was 25-30 years ago that we took them, he ran a series of 5 or 6 different regions of the wine world until a few years ago (decade?). Probably doesn't help you now, but those are options to investigate.

Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/8/21 at 8:24 pm to
If you're in Tuscany there are two enotecas that are must visits. You'll get a better sampling of the region at them than at any single vineyard.

Enoteca Falorni in Greve and Enoteca la Fortezza di Montalcino. They're the two best that I've been to anywhere.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87726 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 10:12 pm to
Can't speak to classes or the like.

My strategy when recreationally trying to learn about a large, overwhelming topic is to jump into the deep end and then just diligently go down rabbit holes when I come across something I don't know, which is often.

There are a lot of wine forums you could check out. Reddit has a wine page that is very beginner oriented and friendly. Or on the other end, WineBerserkers is probably the most obnoxious, pretentious wine forum on the internet. It's also overflowing with people who have incredible collections and have vast knowledge. It's a great place to spend hours reading about specific wine topics or debates and then working backwards - taking those specific discussions and researching them from specific to general.

It's time consuming but it absolutely works.


Posted by G Vice
Lafayette, LA
Member since Dec 2006
13179 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

Steve Staples (works for a local distributor) used to do a series courses thur LSU's leisure courses, this was 25-30 years ago that we took them


We might have been in the same class

He did a course at that time at a restaurant that was then called Jack's Grill, near Bocage. It was upstairs. Might have been part of the desteffani (spelling?) family of restaurants. Anyhow, it was a good intro course for the much-younger me.
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
6075 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 6:39 am to
First step is to get a copy of Kevin Zraly’s Windows on the World wine book. It’s a fantastic primer of all the various wine regions, grapes, etc… that will give you a pretty good understanding of say why a red wine from Burgundy is made with pinot noir but isn’t called pinot noir.
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
3024 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:02 am to
quote:

First step is to get a copy of Kevin Zraly’s Windows on the World wine book. It’s a fantastic primer of all the various wine regions, grapes, etc… that will give you a pretty good understanding of say why a red wine from Burgundy is made with pinot noir but isn’t called pinot noir.
I was looking at "The World Atlas of Wine 8th Edition" based on a ton of recommendations I'm seeing online, do you have any experience with that one? I'll take a look at the one you mentioned as well.
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
3024 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:02 am to
quote:

If you're in Tuscany there are two enotecas that are must visits. You'll get a better sampling of the region at them than at any single vineyard.

Enoteca Falorni in Greve and Enoteca la Fortezza di Montalcino. They're the two best that I've been to anywhere.
I was just watching a Rick Steves video where he mentioned an enoteca around Lake Como so I was looking in to those, I'll put the two you mentioned on the list for research thanks.
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
3024 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:03 am to
quote:

Can't speak to classes or the like.

My strategy when recreationally trying to learn about a large, overwhelming topic is to jump into the deep end and then just diligently go down rabbit holes when I come across something I don't know, which is often.
Yeah this is pretty much what I do as well, endless rabbit holes.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87726 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:29 am to
quote:

I was looking at "The World Atlas of Wine 8th Edition" based on a ton of recommendations I'm seeing online, do you have any experience with that one? I'll take a look at the one you mentioned as well.



I have this, it's great. If you get it, at some point it'll be the definitive resource for you. But I really think Wine Folly is a great book as well, it's extremely easy to digest and well laid out. You're probably like me and want to skip to the good stuff, but it's cheap and it's a really good primer with plenty of depth no matter what knowledge level you're at.

SOMMTV is worth checking out too. I don't have a subscription anymore, but they have blind tasting videos that are really entertaining and a bunch of other stuff. I suspect someone wanting to nerd out would be able to learn a lot.
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 10:32 am
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
6075 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 3:33 pm to
I have that one and go to it routinely. But it’s more an encyclopedia. The Zraly book is more instructional and based off the classes he ran for decades at the World Trade Center. So it’s easier for a beginner or expert to follow.
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
3024 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

I have that one and go to it routinely. But it’s more an encyclopedia. The Zraly book is more instructional and based off the classes he ran for decades at the World Trade Center. So it’s easier for a beginner or expert to follow.


Ah gotcha, I'll start with that one then and then move on the the Atlas.
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