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Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:28 am to drockw1
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I have a bottle of Jack that is more than 30 years old that I was going to open on my wedding night (until my wife got me 2 bottles of Pappy 23). I have no idea if that Jack will be the best whiskey I've ever tried or if it will taste like the most rot-gut stuff you can imagine.
Correct me if I am wrong, but once the whiskey is bottled, it doesn't change anymore. I believe the aging in the barrels is what changes the profile of the whiskey.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:39 am to LoneStarTiger
You are correct. A 30 year old bottle of Jack is a bottle of Jack.
And where did that broad get two bottles of Pappy 23? That's twice as much as my store got in 2012.
And where did that broad get two bottles of Pappy 23? That's twice as much as my store got in 2012.
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 8:40 am
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:54 am to wickowick
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Grain being delivered to Bullalo Trace...
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:54 am to LoneStarTiger
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Correct me if I am wrong, but once the whiskey is bottled, it doesn't change anymore. I believe the aging in the barrels is what changes the profile of the whiskey.
correct
Posted on 6/19/13 at 9:02 am to LoneStarTiger
Barrel Aging
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It’s still a mystery as to how the barrel confers its lubricious effect on the aging spirit.
We do know that aging is related to the chemical changes that take place as a result of
reactions with the alcohol and congeners in the spirit through oxidation and extraction of
chemicals from the oak. Factors affecting this aging process are: percent alcohol of the spirit; the level of charring of the oak; the temperature and humidity in the aging warehouse;
the size of the barrel; and of course, the length of time the aging takes place.
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Temperature and Humidity: The humidity in the warehouse also plays a significant
role. High humidity usually results in a decrease in alcohol strength, and dry warehouses
usually have the opposite effect. Humidity also affects the character of the final spirit. It has
been found that the extraction of vanillin is better at low humidity. Low-humidity aging
does generally result in spirits that have a better sensory quality
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Tropical temperatures, especially when there are variations between night and day, are
ideal for faster aging, and it has been found that aging may not take place during the winter
in temperate climates if the warehouse is not heated. Movement of barrels during the aging
period will also help, but this is obviously not a practical approach.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:59 am to LoneStarTiger
Thanks for the clarification...glad I didn't put too much stock into thinking its too good...
Posted on 6/19/13 at 1:31 pm to drockw1
Sometimes though the older bottles are better. Be that there may have been more hands on craftsmanship or higher quality ingredients used. So just because it has been done aging for quite some time doesn't mean it might not be better than the JD that you get off the shelf today. Or on the other hand it might be exactly like the JD you get off the shelf today.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 3:32 pm to cantfindausablename
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And where did that broad get two bottles of Pappy 23? That's twice as much as my store got in 2012.
This was in 2011, before what I call the "bourbon boom"...
We've got a contact at a distributor who acquired those 2 bottles...last Christmas, I asked about a bottle of PVW 15 or 20, they said there was no shot.
It's amazing how much difference a year makes.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 5:56 pm to drockw1
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It's amazing how much difference a year makes.
Yup. June 2012 I passed on a Pappy 23 for $250 that had been collecting dust behind my store's counter for months. Aside from not studying harder for the LSAT, that's my life's biggest regret.
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 6/19/13 at 7:47 pm to GaryMyMan
Has anyone been able to find Elijah Craig barrel proof?
Posted on 6/20/13 at 6:26 am to cantfindausablename
How far is Lake Street Liquor off the interstate? I will be passing through Lake Charles tomorrow evening, and would love to get a bottle.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 6:33 am to theBeard
Nope, and I've been looking. The guys on the BX are honestly starting to piss me off some. They pop up with like 10 bottles to sell and act like they got super lucky finding them on the shelf. To me, its pretty obvious that some of them either own or are associated with a liquor store. And when they get bottles like that in, they just keep them to the side so they can sell them for more at places like the BX.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 7:14 am to TheDude
BX is driving the prices up even more then normal. EC barrel proof should be a $40 bottle but they are being sold for $100 plus. I am not a fan of people who purchase then entire stock just to sell for a profit on BX
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:00 am to TheDude
Take the 210 loop, take the lake street exit, turn right onto lake street, probably 2 to 3 miles south on the right. Don't let the animal smell throw you off they used to have a big arse parrot in there.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:07 am to TheDude
As was mentioned earlier: some on BX are fair, some aren't. I was offered a 4 Roses SB LE 2011 for $135, which isn't bad. I want the 2012 though.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:10 am to GaryMyMan
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4 Roses SB LE 2011 for $135
I would be down for that
Posted on 6/20/13 at 9:29 am to GaryMyMan
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As was mentioned earlier: some on BX are fair, some aren't. I was offered a 4 Roses SB LE 2011 for $135, which isn't bad. I want the 2012 though.
I actually paid a little less than that for the bottle of '13 LE I got...$120 shipped. I thought it was a fair price considering how much was made and the fact that you'll probably never see it on a shelf again. That being said, the day before I found that bottle some tool offered to sell me one for $275
I paid about the same (120) for the ER17
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 9:30 am
Posted on 6/20/13 at 10:34 am to gmrkr5
Great price on ER 17.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 10:50 am to theBeard
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Great price on ER 17.
I was happy with it. Just wish I had 2 so I wouldn't feel bad drinking one. I'll be trying to secure some retail bottles of the fall BTAC release
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