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Which Method Will Give a Richer Stock?

Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:22 am
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
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Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:22 am
Method A - Cover meat and bones with as little water as possible and simmer. Strain.

Method B - Use a lot of water to start, strain, and then reduce liquid to a volume equal to the liquid in Method A.

All other things being equal.
Posted by ZeekFreak
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:37 am to
why consider B when you can achieve the same with A quicker
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
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Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:39 am to
B sounds like a waste of water. I was always told to just cover everything with water and simmer.
Posted by convertedtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
2789 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:40 am to
Are you covering said pot in method A? Seems like you would have to add water to keep up with evaporation. I've always done B but I'M no professional.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
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Posted on 1/30/18 at 11:52 am to
How about C? Put bony stuff (and appropriate seasonings, like an onion stuck w a clove, celery rib, etc) into a pressure cooker with amount of water equal to the amount of stock you want. Cook at high pressure for 45 minutes for chicken (1 hr for beef or pork).

It will be the best stock you ever made.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
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Posted on 1/30/18 at 12:00 pm to
its b, reducing the liquid intensifies flavor
Posted by convertedtiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/30/18 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

into a pressure cooker with amount of water equal to the amount of stock you want.


This is what I switched to once I got an Instant Pot. I can't really tell which may be better. I know the PC method is certainly faster and makes a mean stock.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/30/18 at 12:09 pm to
Really? Even when the end result is the same volume of liquid?

May need to change how I make stock.
This post was edited on 1/30/18 at 12:10 pm
Posted by ShootingsBricks4Life
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 1/30/18 at 12:27 pm to
I do both. I guess just depending on the time I have but I believe Method B is the way to go for a richer stock.

Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
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Posted on 1/30/18 at 1:36 pm to
Yep
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
10089 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 1:53 pm to
I suspect Method B would be a bit better. I think using more water means more stuff from the bones and meat goes into the water. Osmosis, ya know.

I may have to do an experiment.
Posted by No Disrespect But
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 1/30/18 at 2:00 pm to
The factors involved are the amount of water and the amount of meat flavoring. The latter is determined by the amount of time spent extracting flavor from the meat and bones.

If the extraction time is the same, and the ratio of water to flavoring is the same, then the stocks will be identical using either method.

However, in real-world practice, I would expect cooks using method B to spend more time simmering the meat and bones, thus extracting more flavor, and yielding a richer stock.
Posted by cj35
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Posted on 1/30/18 at 2:13 pm to
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Which Method Will Give a Richer Stock?
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Posted by cj35
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Posted on 1/30/18 at 2:15 pm to
Method B in my experience.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
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Posted on 1/30/18 at 2:22 pm to
There is only so much you can get out of the bones and veg. Once you strain and begin to reduce the liquid you get a stronger more rich stock because the water is being evaporated and you’re left with concentrated flavor
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 2:29 pm to
Which is why the superior extraction under pressure makes the best stock in the least time. Pressure squeezes out all da flava, in less time than a simmered stock taking 4X longer. Stock alone justifies the purchase price of a PC.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/30/18 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

There is only so much you can get out of the bones and veg. Once you strain and begin to reduce the liquid you get a stronger more rich stock because the water is being evaporated and you’re left with concentrated flavor


If you get the same amount out of the bones and the veg, even though the water didn't reduce, you'll still have the same concentration. It's science.
Posted by convertedtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
2789 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

Stock alone justifies the purchase price of a PC.




Agreed. I spend a lot less time on stocks these days. Well worth the price.
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 1/30/18 at 3:54 pm to
Neither, because you are making a broth, not a stock.
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
10089 posts
Posted on 1/30/18 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

If you get the same amount out of the bones and the veg, even though the water didn't reduce, you'll still have the same concentration. It's science.
I guess to ask my question another way:

Do you get more flavor out with more water or does the amount of water not matter to how much flavor leeches out.
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