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re: What kind of smoker to buy?

Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:45 pm to
Posted by laslabjohn
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:45 pm to
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Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:52 pm to
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For the $$ it's hard to beat a Weber smokey mountain



You may be right on value, however I love my Yoder and would not trade it for anything.
Ease of an electric and actual wood smoke is hard to beat, and the thing is built like a damn tank.
Posted by blades8088
Covington
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:01 pm to
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Yoder


Can you grill something as burgers quickly like on a normal grill? Or is it strictly slow cooking smoker?
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:10 pm to
You know...it just really depends on what you are looking for. There is a lot of good advice on this thread, and it just depends on your personal preference.

I've done the stick burners through the years. Worked great. My best tasting, no doubt, have been from stick burners. But it does require some work tending it.

The electric smokers are very simple. Mixed with an amaze-n pellet tray, you can cut it on and forget about it for hours. But the flavor isn't even remotely close to what you'll get out of stick. Nor is the bark. Nor is the experience, for me. I've got one I'll only use for chicken wings and the like.

Propane is kind of where I've settled. I've got a large smoke box 5x5 by 8' tall that can do several hogs at a time or a whole shitload of pork, etc. it's got a burner in the bottom with a thick plate over it that can get a log or two of oak or pecan at a time and put out some pretty good meat with not quite as much work as a stick burner. But that one is only fired up for special occasions or when I'm cooking for a group. My normal smoker is a propane masterbuilt sportsman elite or something like that. The big one with the window on the door. Anyway, I can add wood as needed through access door at the bottom without having to open the box. It smokes plenty enough and gives me a good smoke ring on my meat. It is my most "comfortable" smoker, and puts out plenty good meat. But that's just what works for me now. 15 years ago, I would have hated it. I loved throwing logs on a fire and tending a pit.

Admittedly, I have zero experience with a pellet smoker.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:57 am to
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Can you grill something as burgers quickly like on a normal grill? Or is it strictly slow cooking smoker?



You can cook over a direct flame at º700 if you so wish, or you can slow smoke as low as you wish.

It is actually the ultimate reverse sear machine if that is your bag.

This is a recipe page of their online arm ATBBQ LINK

You can get a good idea from some of the videos
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 6:03 am to
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Admittedly, I have zero experience with a pellet smoker.


They are on par with ceramics like BGE and such.

Blind taste tests I have seen online and taken part in seem to always rank these two types out about the same.
Posted by lacajun069
franklinton
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 8:50 am to
I bought a 22" Weber Smokey Mountain smoker 7 years ago. It works like a charm and does a great job especially when paired with my Guru DiGi Q fan sydtem

I bought a backwoods Chubby G2 last year and I love it also.it is a great little insulated vertical smoker that turns out some great smoked meats. It is also made in Shreveport Louisiana.

My next Smoker will be either a Pitmaker out of Houston or a Myroniron Gravity Fed insulated smoker.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:08 am to
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22" Weber Smokey Mountain smoker


I will probably pick up one of these again just for brisket, electric just doesn't do the job here at all to my liking. I built a heatermeter for my SI #3 which were originally designed by the guys over at TVWBB for the Smokey Mountain.
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 9:09 am
Posted by blades8088
Covington
Member since Nov 2008
4202 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:07 am to
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direct flame


Thanks for your help. Just one more quick question. When cooking something like burgers, wouldnt it he easier to just leave the diffuser in place and not have to worry about cooking over a open flame? Or does it seem to be a different taste between having the diffuser on or off?
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14891 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:35 am to
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You don't have to spend that much on an offset. You can find offsets for pretty dang cheap that will do the job just fine.



for a good one you do... there is only 1 or 2 sub-$1000 offsets i would consider and they still need some modding to get 'em working right
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 11:54 am to
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for a good one you do... there is only 1 or 2 sub-$1000 offsets i would consider and they still need some modding to get 'em working right


That's nice for you, but that doesn't mean there isn't a ton of people using sub $1000 offsets pretty damn effectively, with and without mods.
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 11:55 am
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:02 pm to
I believe after this thread, along with some other research, I have found my "happy medium" in the pellet smoker.

I want something that still requires a little work, but is also able to go unattended at times. I also want it to double as a grill for general hamburglers and shite.

First question is that I am seeing Traeger models with and without the chimney stack, not sure what the pros and cons of it are?
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:51 pm to
whatever you say... recommending a cheap offset to someone is the quickest way to turn them off to bbq

a quality offset should be made of thick steel and sealed well.... neither of which will be found on a $350 home depot offset
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15503 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 1:11 pm to
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whatever you say... recommending a cheap offset to someone is the quickest way to turn them off to bbq


So is telling someone not to get electric/propane/pellet, lots of people very happy with their time vs taste curve going with something much easier.

Then there is lots of high dollar offsets sitting around doing nothing too because the person wasn't really that interested in it once they actually started doing it.

I prefer to recommend something cheap to start out with, if you enjoy the shite out of it, yeah make a large investment in a good one.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14891 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 1:25 pm to
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So is telling someone not to get electric/propane/pellet, lots of people very happy with their time vs taste curve going with something much easier.

Then there is lots of high dollar offsets sitting around doing nothing too because the person wasn't really that interested in it once they actually started doing it.

I prefer to recommend something cheap to start out with, if you enjoy the shite out of it, yeah make a large investment in a good one.


which is why i recommended a WSM. electric/propane is button pushing, not smoking. i didnt say anything about pellets
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15503 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 2:35 pm to
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electric/propane is button pushing, not smoking. i didnt say anything about pellets


This is dumb. Why not include pellet? Pellet smoking is just as easy as electric, hell its even more button pushing like than the people that use electric masterbuilts with the original chip loaders instead of going AMNPS. It's definitely easier than propane. Arguing taste is far more effective.

Posted by USMCTIGER1970
BATON ROUGE
Member since Mar 2017
2371 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 3:25 pm to
I started out on one of those small, vertical propane models, I have since move on to an off-set stick burner. The stick burner is definitely more work, but the quality of the results is not even close. I personally enjoy the process of managing my temps and getting to know your pit. Its really about how serious you want to be about it.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14891 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 3:37 pm to
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This is dumb. Why not include pellet? Pellet smoking is just as easy as electric, hell its even more button pushing like than the people that use electric masterbuilts with the original chip loaders instead of going AMNPS. It's definitely easier than propane. Arguing taste is far more effective.



didnt mention pellet just because i didnt think of them...but sure we can add pellets to the button pushers too if it makes you happy.
Posted by rodnreel
South La.
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 4:00 pm to
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Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 8:11 pm to
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Thanks for your help. Just one more quick question. When cooking something like burgers, wouldnt it he easier to just leave the diffuser in place and not have to worry about cooking over a open flame? Or does it seem to be a different taste between having the diffuser on or off?


I bought the diffuser plate with the door in it, takes less than 3 seconds to open the cover/door, not a big taste difference at all, the option is there though.
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