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re: Tip etiquette question: Do you base your tip amount on included taxes?

Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:17 pm to
Posted by Anguyen504
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
601 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:17 pm to
I expect 20%, just to be frank, and I don’t want to sound arrogant when I say that. I do everything LL says.

Even when I go out, I judge the service as well. It is moreso of me seeing if I could
do better or not. The best service I’ve ever had through and through was probably at Carbone and Kosaka in NYC. I haven’t traveled westward too much, but those are the best services I’ve had so far
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18003 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:31 pm to
What is LL?

And you should expect 20%


The restaurant I worked in serviced anybody from high school proms to the most famous people in the world.


Europeans were the worst because they would stiff you using the excuse that they thought the gratuity was included

As they do in Europe


I’m very familiar with every type of tipper.


We were professionals and treated everybody the same.


Except for our local VIP’s and superstars from music, acting, arts, and politics.
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 5:45 pm
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81197 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:57 pm to
quote:

As a former waiter myself.


No offense but if you waited tables 40 years ago, you’re an old man who waited tables in an entirely different service industry than today.

The best tippers hands down are current or former service industry, so you my friend are an outlier.

Knowing a party of industry folks are coming in is the best news to get on a shift because they take care of their own.

You’ve called people ignorant, stupid, fools, etc. and you’ve replied to yourself when everyone ignored you. You’re the epitome of Old Man Yells at Cloud. That’s not how to have a discussion on the internet with people who certainly aren’t name calling you.
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 6:01 pm
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18003 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 6:04 pm to
quote:


No offense but if you waited tables 40 years ago, you’re an old man who waited tables in an entirely different service industry than today.

The best tippers hands down are current or former service industry, so you my friend are an outlier.




That is absolutely correct

And I’m not an outlier


Where did you get that impression?


I appreciate more than anybody the 20% of tips.


The service industry gets an automatic raise as food prices go up.


Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18003 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

You’ve called people ignorant, stupid, fools, etc. and you’ve replied to yourself when everyone ignored you. You’re the epitome of Old Man Yells at Cloud. That’s not how to have a discussion on the internet with people who certainly aren’t name calling you.



I was responding to the ignorant posters that were name calling.

The ignorant posters that were calling people cheap for not tipping on tax.



Apparently you are another poster with comprehension issues in this thread.


And please don’t lecture me on how waiters and bar tenders tip.


I very rarely waited on waiters and bartenders in my restaurant


But waiters and bartenders always appreciated when myself and friends came in.


We knew each other on first name basis.

The only difference about service today is the price of the bill (20% is still 20%)


And if you’re not in a very high end restaurant today….

You will get lackluster service compared to the service demanded in a fine restaurant.


Oh, one more thing.


There was a very popular bar that began opening on Sunday nights for people that worked in the service industry.

Myself and many waiters that I worked with were regulars there.

The prices were discounted but I assure you the bartenders were tipped extremely well.


So if I’m an old man that yells at clouds…


What are you?


I won’t call you any names.


But I can think of a few.
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 6:42 pm
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18003 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

The best service I’ve ever had through and through was probably at Carbone and Kosaka in NYC.



What percentage did you tip your waiters at Carbone and Kosaka?

Was it after taxes?
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 6:28 pm
Posted by Anguyen504
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
601 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 6:42 pm to
I tipped Carbone 20% cash bc I was doing very well then. At Kosaka, I tipped 20% on my card only because I didn’t want to tip at the time. a

I tip 20% cash or card whenever I’m at now. I’m so comfortable
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18003 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:09 pm to
Nice.

What I often do is tip my regular 20% on my card because I carry vey little cash


But will add another $10-$20 in cash on top of that.

I was in the industry when the IRS began going after service industry tips.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81197 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

I was in the industry when the IRS began going after service industry tips.



There's a pretty interesting thing you could set up where you agree to let the IRS assume you make $X per hour and tax you based on that no matter what (slow night, busy night, etc.). I did it when I worked at the casino as a cocktail waitress because I think it was something crazy low like $12-$15/hour and I made far more than per hour on average.

I have no idea if that's still a thing. It was offered to us as part of our hiring paperwork in 2011-2012, but was never mentioned at other service industry jobs I had.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18003 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:59 pm to

Like you said

I’m an old man and have been out of the business for many years.


We were paid 1/2 the minimum wage per hour.

Plus tips.


When the IRS stepped in I think they only taxed us on 35% of our income???



But I really don’t remember.

It was never an issue for me.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18003 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

I did it when I worked at the casino as a cocktail waitress



You see.


We are brothers and sisters in the industry.


I apologize for any misunderstanding.


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