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Posted on 11/16/17 at 4:42 pm to
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 4:42 pm to
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Red Zins under $15 would be a good starting point. No need to spend more than that.


A great Zin in the price range is Plungerhead. Excellent Zin at about $14 bottle. Rouses carries them.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14974 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 4:45 pm to
Pretty much all wines (red and white) are dry. The exceptions are many rosés are finished sweet or off-dry and most Rieslings are finished somewhat sweet (some a lot more than others). Of course dessert wines are very sweet.

However if you get a fruit-forward wine they will seem to be sweet to the palate. So I'd suggest Rhône styles such as Châteauneuf-du-Pape or new world versions like Syrah/Shiraz or Grenache. Also Zinfandel can be made in a fruity style.
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
8132 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 4:46 pm to
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Oh and for your high end chard, get on that rombauer life. You'll never look back.


Rombauer is amazing wine. No Chardonnay better in my opinion.
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14539 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 6:45 pm to
I like Apothic Red too. Actually use it a lot for cooking. There are good affordable reds from Chile and Australia. Maybe I'll come back later and actually post some names.

My Cabernet Sauvignon of choice is j lohr.

Have a good friend who is a big Merlot fan. Can always count on him to have a couple of bottles ready to open when we visit. They are always nice, but I seldom buy so someone else will help with a name.
Posted by OldTigahFot
Drinkin' with the rocket scientists
Member since Jan 2012
10507 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 7:07 pm to
Seven Deadly Zins is a good start.

For Pinot noirs, Mark West Black Label is an excellent value, also J.Lohr .

Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 7:50 pm to
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Zin: Pretty bold for a white wine drinker.


He’s drinking CSM chard, aged in oak. Chards aged in oak are just as full bodied. Malolactic fermentation gives it the butter taste and heavier mouthfeel.

If anything, he should go towards zins and cabs because he’s drinking full bodied white wines.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 7:52 pm to
Yeah that is the same reason I posted what I did.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 7:55 pm to


Speaking of zins, here’s some great ones

Under $20
7 deadly
Bogle
Gnarly head
Moss roxx
AVV Sin zin
Federalist
1000 stories - bourbon barrel aged

Over $20
Rombauer
Michael David 7 deadly line
Saldo
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 8:05 pm
Posted by SaDaTayMoses
Member since Oct 2005
4571 posts
Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:46 pm to
Dark Horse pinot noir is an inexpensive red that I enjoy
Posted by BooDreaux
Orlandeaux
Member since Sep 2011
3300 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 5:38 am to
None of these are over $20 and a few are under $10

2016 Mocine “Santa Marta” Rosso 750ml (Tuscany)

2015 Chateau de Ribebon Bordeaux Superieur 750ml

2015 Ca‘ Rozzeria “Langhe Nebbiolo” 750ml (Piedmont)

2016 Vale do Homem “Alvarinho” 750ml (Vinho Verde)

2016 Vale do Homem “Arinto” 750ml (Vinho Verde)

2016 Vale do Homem “Loureiro” 750ml (Vinho Verde)

2015 Chateau de Monbazan Grand Vin de Graves 750ml (Bordeaux)

2012 Ca’ Rozzeria Barolo 750ml (Piedmont)

2015 Laurent Gauthier Morgon “Grand Cras” 750ml (Beaujolais)

2016 Chateau Fonreaud Listrac 750ml (Bordeaux)

2016 Chateau Le Doyenne Cotes de Bordeaux Cadillac 750ml

2016 I Veroni Rosé 750ml (Tuscany)
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
78243 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:50 am to
Do you prefer dry or sweet?
Posted by lsujunky
Down By The River
Member since Jun 2011
2714 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:41 am to
Belle Glos Clark & Telephone Pinot Noir is one of the best middle of the road Pinots I've had.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:59 am to
Everyone's suggesting Pinot noir, but coming from a full bodied chard and going to a light bodied pinot noir might be a disappointment.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52760 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 1:37 pm to
Get a mess of Cabs, Zins and Garnacha’s and have fun. Don’t sweat it.
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
12732 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 5:05 pm to
I’m in no way shape or form a wine person, but there’s a couple reds that I enjoy and they are both Cabernet’s and under $20/bottle.

Rodney Strong

Alexander Valley

We were out to dinner with a couple other people a couple weeks back and ordered a Silver Oak for the table and it was very good, but was like $180 for the bottle. That being said, the Alexander Valley was $60. We pay like $17 for Alexander Valley at the liquor store, so I’d assume there was a pretty hefty markup with the Silver Oak as well.

I’m going to look for it next time I’m at the liquor store.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:35 pm to
Silver oak is around $70 at the store. Great bottle.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99037 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:49 pm to
Add $40 for Napa
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:53 pm to
Yeah but if it was $180 at a restaurant it was probably the Alexander valley. I'd imagine the Napa would be around $300 at a restaurant
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99037 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:15 pm to
Yeah and $180 in a restaurant isn't bad. They wanted $288 for Alexander at Vic & Anthony's. Told them they were crazy
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:22 pm to
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$180 in a restaurant isn't bad


Not at all. Great bottle too.

quote:

They wanted $288 for Alexander at Vic & Anthony's. Told them they were crazy


That's fricking stupid. We can expense wine we drink out and I wouldn't even pay that. That's way too high.
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