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Stuffing Boudin Question
Posted on 6/21/20 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 6/21/20 at 12:47 pm
I made ~15lbs of boudin yesterday. Unfortunately I couldn’t find a stiffer anywhere, so I ordered one in amazon. It comes in Tuesday. I have all the Boudin in a large container in the fridge. As such, it has all congealed and stiffened up (expected from refrigerating). My question is will I even be able to run this through the stuffer congealed like this? If not, is there any safe way to heat it up before stuffing or will this make the boudin go bad?
Posted on 6/21/20 at 2:26 pm to Tadey
Bring the boudin to room temp. then add liquid, just enough to make to make it pliable. I did two batches of sausage this way yesterday. Do NOT over stuff the casings. Good luck, let us know how it turns out.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:38 pm to unclejhim
Won’t cause a problem with bacteria bringing it to room temp or anything? Guessing I should heat it up in a pot or something rather than letting it sit out to get there huh?
Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:56 pm to Tadey
Heat it up in a pot then stuff it. If you’re worried about bacteria, put the links in ziplocks then into an ice bath
But theoretically you should not have this stuff sitting out long enough to do any harm. Heat, stuff, fridge.
But theoretically you should not have this stuff sitting out long enough to do any harm. Heat, stuff, fridge.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:40 pm to GynoSandberg
Room temp and adding liquid is the correct answer. Rule of thumb is don’t leave food out longer than 4 hours at room temp. After 4 hours, bacteria can begin to grow well. But this is 4 hours at room temp, if you pull it out the fridge, it may take a couple of hours to get to room temps (around the 70s).
Plus, you are stuffing the boudin in a raw casing, so it’s gonna be a raw product anyhow.
Your concern would be if it does sit out too long, enough bacteria can grow so that when you cook it again, it won’t kill enough of the bacteria. But...keep it under 4 hours and that’s not likely to happen.
I would never recommend heating in a pot unless you’re going to heat to a lethality temperature (160-170). Even if you ice water bath it after, you could be getting the boudin to an optimal bacterial growth temperature (80-130) which doesn’t require much time to grow the bacteria.
Plus, you are stuffing the boudin in a raw casing, so it’s gonna be a raw product anyhow.
Your concern would be if it does sit out too long, enough bacteria can grow so that when you cook it again, it won’t kill enough of the bacteria. But...keep it under 4 hours and that’s not likely to happen.
I would never recommend heating in a pot unless you’re going to heat to a lethality temperature (160-170). Even if you ice water bath it after, you could be getting the boudin to an optimal bacterial growth temperature (80-130) which doesn’t require much time to grow the bacteria.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:25 pm to SixthAndBarone
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I would never recommend heating in a pot unless you’re going to heat to a lethality temperature (160-170)
The whole point of reheating it is to take it past the danger zone. Plus the gelatin returns to liquid. And you get better links when you stuff boudin hot. About the only sausage that you want to do hot
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Even if you ice water bath it after, you could be getting the boudin to an optimal bacterial growth temperature (80-130) which doesn’t require much time to grow the bacteria.
What?
Stuffing boudin hot & fresh off the cook, vacuum sealing, and ice bathing is standard protocol. Try it and stick your little thermometer in there every 15 minutes and chart how fast it drops below 40*
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Room temp and adding liquid is the correct answer.
Good way for a mushy mess. Don’t do it OP
Posted on 6/22/20 at 7:26 am to GynoSandberg
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The whole point of reheating it is to take it past the danger zone.
You failed to mention this in your post and this is critical.
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What?
If you have the temp at an optimal growth level, enough bacteria can grow. An ice bath would stop the growth, but the damage could already be done. Of course, if you took the temp to lethality, this isn’t a problem.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:14 am to SixthAndBarone
Okay so it sounds like the consensus is to heat it all back up to 160-170 and then immediately stuff the sausage/vacuum seal/and ice bath before freezer it sounds like?
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:43 am to Tadey
Yes, that will work fine. But you’ll be heating it up to a high temp which may affect quality. By the time you cook it to eat it, that will be the third time it is cooked. This is why the room temperature idea was suggested. But I see no problem in this, just letting you know the facts.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:49 am to SixthAndBarone
Yeah thats what I am worried about. I just didnt know if taking it out of the fridge and letting it come down to room temperature over the course of a long period would be safe.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:19 am to Tadey
If I were in your shoes, I'd take the 15 lbs of already made boudin and do 5 lbs. boudin balls, 5 lbs. of egg rolls, and the remaining 5 lbs. vacuum sealed in individual size portions. Stuff the balls with pepper jack cheese, egg wash, and batter. Then vacuum seal and freeze. Since the boudin is already refrigerator temperature, it will be easier to work with. Another option, stuff boudin in chicken breasts or pork chops for future meals. With the vacuum sealed boudin, re-heat in hot water and eat.
google images below - you get the idea

google images below - you get the idea



Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:23 am to Got Blaze
Thanks for the suggestion Blaze. This would be perfect for the refrigerated boudin, but last weekend I made a bunch of boudin and made a ton of egg rolls and boudin balls. I have plenty to fry now, but I really want some for the grill and to smoke.
I have to say though when I run my boudin balls through the egg wash and batter they don't come out looking as good as the ones in your pic. Any tips/tricks?
I have to say though when I run my boudin balls through the egg wash and batter they don't come out looking as good as the ones in your pic. Any tips/tricks?
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:33 pm to Tadey
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I have to say though when I run my boudin balls through the egg wash and batter they don't come out looking as good as the ones in your pic. Any tips/tricks?
from my experience, room temp boudin does not mold well and tends to fall apart with excessive handling. Get the boudin as cold as possible without freezing. From the large container of boudin, place several handfuls of boudin in a bowl. Leave the large container in the refrigerator. Make the boudin balls first to desired size. Then using a large fork, carefully place a single ball in the egg wash, coating all sides. Then remove with fork and place in flour or desired batter, generously coating boudin ball. Some people do a double coating of egg wash and flour. Place the battered boudin ball on a 13x9 baking tray. When all boudin balls are done, place the tray back in fridge to keep cold. Get another few handfuls of boudin and repeat. If doing a large batch, I freeze the coated balls first before vacuum sealing so the pressure doesn't ruin them. Let the balls thaw first before frying them. This works best for me as there are other options and methods.
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