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Store Bought Roux

Posted on 5/15/18 at 1:18 pm
Posted by LeTigre de La Marais
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 1:18 pm
I used to love to make it myself, drink beer the whole time, etc.

Now I use Katy's. The dry Katy's is much blonder than the wet.

Any others get darker if you want that serious dark roux? I just add some Kitchen Bouquet if I want the psychological impact of DARK roux.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 1:20 pm to
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I just add some Kitchen Bouquet if I want the psychological impact of DARK roux.


Dark roux is about flavor rather than color.
Posted by LeTigre de La Marais
Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 1:24 pm to
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Dark roux is about flavor rather than color.


So...the color is independent from the flavor? Or can a blonde roux taste as dark as a black one?

I find Katy's wet to taste dark enough thought's not "black" like some people try to achieve.
This post was edited on 5/15/18 at 1:25 pm
Posted by KyrieElaison
Tennessee
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 1:28 pm to
You can’t make a light roux taste like a dark on just adding Kitchen Boquet. The flavor comes from browning the flour. The darker it gets the more intense the flavor
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 1:30 pm to
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You can’t make a light roux taste like a dark on just adding Kitchen Boquet. The flavor comes from browning the flour. The darker it gets the more intense the flavor




Exactly.
Posted by LeTigre de La Marais
Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 1:36 pm to
Ok Im on the same page now...

Anyone knw of any store bought that's actually authentically darker than Katy's wet, so I dont have to fool my audience with Kitchen Bouquet for that extra color?
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 1:38 pm to
A dark roux shouldn’t take longer than 20 minutes really.
Posted by gumbo2176
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 1:46 pm to
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A dark roux shouldn’t take longer than 20 minutes really.


That really depends on the quantity of roux you are making. I routinely cook enough gumbo to feed over 100 people and it takes me at least 40+ minutes to completely make my dark roux.

If cooking a small pot (a couple gallons), then it's more like 20 minutes.
Posted by LeTigre de La Marais
Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 1:51 pm to
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I routinely cook enough gumbo to feed over 100 people and it takes me at least 40+ minutes to completely make my dark roux.



You must have some big arms to push that much flour and oil for 40 minutes. Either that or hire someone.
Posted by LeTigre de La Marais
Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 1:53 pm to
I guess no one has anything to offer on store bought than. I guess I'll have to stop being such a chiseler.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 1:55 pm to
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If cooking a small pot (a couple gallons), then it's more like 20 minutes.


Like I said.

More often than not, people aren’t asking things on this board for a cook out for 100+ people.
Posted by celltech1981
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 2:02 pm to
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Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 2:03 pm to
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Katy's



Try her brother Kary’s. It’s good jarred roux.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 2:05 pm to
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It's cooked flour...nothing complicated


Not complicated, but it can be diffferent with different fats.

I use bacon fat and the fat rendered from the sausage after I brown it.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 2:18 pm to
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Anyone knw of any store bought that's actually authentically darker than Katy's wet, so I dont have to fool my audience with Kitchen Bouquet for that extra color?




I've never heard of Katy's. Kary's and Savoie's both have jarred pretty dark roux. I read about a local brand that looks darker than those. It's out of Lafayette, I believe. I can't recall the name right now.
Posted by LeTigre de La Marais
Member since Apr 2018
294 posts
Posted on 5/15/18 at 2:18 pm to
Duck fat roux
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 2:21 pm to
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Not complicated, but it can be diffferent with different fats.


Yes, it can and even different oils can have different flavors. That's one reason I'm not a big fan of jarred roux. I think Savoie's may say something like cottonseed oil and other oils. One of them does. There's definitely a difference if you use bacon fat, sausage fat or butter.

For gumbo, my roux is pretty large, so as I've said many times, I make it in the oven most of the time. Takes a lot longer, but little to no effort. I enjoy making roux, but when I'm making a large quantity of gumbo, time becomes an issue as well as my weak hand with the stirring.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 2:31 pm to
Here's the roux I read about. I don't know what type of oil is used, though.

https://shop.acadianatable.com/products/roxs-roux

This post was edited on 5/15/18 at 2:32 pm
Posted by LeTigre de La Marais
Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 2:37 pm to
Thanks
Posted by NOLATiger71
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 2:37 pm to
What is the rule of thumb for the amount of Roux to finished product. Meaning as an example, a cup of roux per gallon or? I always eyeball but if there is a rule I would like to know. Thanks
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