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Plant based diet?

Posted on 4/28/15 at 8:14 am
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
9770 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 8:14 am
Any of you food board people follow a plant based or vegan diet? What are some of your go to foods/meals?

I have cut my meat intake to 4-6 ounces just at supper. Some days I go without any meat or dairy.

My Rich Roll cookbook should arrive tomorrow or Thursday so I'm interested to see what good recipes they have in there.
Posted by KyrieElaison
Tennessee
Member since Oct 2014
2401 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 8:20 am to
Low carb high fat is the way to go. All my lipids normalized when I eliminated carbs.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18430 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 8:23 am to
Not me.

But I will offer a warning.

There's a lot of literature on the web about how you can get lots of protein from a plant based diet. This is true to an extent. You can get just about the same amount of protein in 100 calories of steak as you can 100 calories of broccoli. Further, if you're wanting to lose some weight, 100 calories of broccoli is a frickload more food than 100 calories of steak.

But what vegans and vegetarians fail to inform is the fact that most vegetables with protein do not offer the "complete" protein that human beings need. Most animal proteins do. Broccoli does not.

There are some combinations of foods that provide a complete protein. Corn and beans are one. I think quinoa is a complete protein.

I bring this up because as I experienced with a friend of mine, you can lose weight, lose energy, and lose health trying to cut out meat from your diet.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 8:56 am to
Millions of Indians follow fairly strict vegan diets with no ill effects. Of course, they have thousands of years of practice, and they're not afraid of bitter greens, root veg, spices, and beans/pulses/lentils.

Some of the tastiest things in the vegan food world are southern Indian foods. Look at cookbooks covering southern Indian cuisine...

Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8820 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 8:57 am to
Whatever you do just try to stay away from soy.

My thoughts - maybe you CAN get protein from plant sources, but the amount of beans, etc you'd need to eat to consume enough protein has to be very irritating to the gut.

Humans are as evolved as we are thanks to meat. Flesh builds flesh. Eat meat.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:15 am to
quote:

My thoughts - maybe you CAN get protein from plant sources, but the amount of beans, etc you'd need to eat to consume enough protein has to be very irritating to the gut.


Definitely NOT. Your protein needs aren't nearly as large as you'd think, even if very active. There are a fair number of vegan athletes who manage to train & compete at high levels on vegan diets.

Seeds & nuts, nut butters, and nut flours can contribute significant amounts of protein to balanced vegan diets...it's not all beans. You can buy plant-based protein powders derived from seeds as well.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41168 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:40 am to
I recently switched to soy protein powder. Whey was hurting my stomach.
Posted by glorymanutdtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
3801 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:47 am to
I am from south india. We only eat meat on Sunday. Our breakfast are usually from batter made of rice/black gram/lentils. We eat vegetable curries for lunch. We have snack for tea mostly veg. Most of the Indians are not super fit but at the same not obese. We walk a lot to get to places. since we eat often, metabolism might be higher. Plus all the food is from fresh produce. Not processed food.
Posted by glorymanutdtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
3801 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:49 am to
We eat lot of rice. I mean a lot.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8820 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 10:59 am to
And yet India has some of the worst heart disease rates in the world.


LINK
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8820 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:00 am to
quote:

Seeds & nuts, nut butters, and nut flours can contribute significant amounts of protein to balanced vegan diets


All those omega 6's are pretty problematic

Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
9770 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:55 am to
I avoid soy at all cost. I eat lots of oats, fruit, veggies, quinoa, hummus, etc. My biggest thing is getting acclimated to eating beans. I do not eat them....at all. So I'm slowly trying to work them into my diet.

I'm an avid runner and have not noticed any lack of endurance for sure. Its probably helped in my recovery. I run with a few plant based ultramarathoners. I have done the research and was intrigued so I have been doing this for over a month.
Posted by DosManos
Member since Oct 2013
3552 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:05 pm to
What's the issue with soy? I read conflicting reports.

OP-I've been reading about Rich Roll all day thanks to your post.
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
9770 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:07 pm to
Read "Finding Ultra"
Posted by glorymanutdtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
3801 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:12 pm to
You are correct. We have extreme high rate of diabetes becuz of all the rice. Most of the man eat out on street food at least five times a week and it is all fried. So we have lot of heart diseases.
Posted by Shamalamadingdong
Member since Mar 2015
188 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

Our breakfast are usually from batter made of rice/black gram/lentils.


Tell me how to make and cook this.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155761 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:52 pm to
not really but i have some go-to recipes, lentil soup, fagoli (w/ veggie based broth if you wanna go that route), grilled portobello, portobello 'burger' etc, black bean soup, three-bean chili
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41168 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 12:56 pm to
What's the issue with soy?
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18430 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:13 pm to
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Definitely NOT. Your protein needs aren't nearly as large as you'd think, even if very active. There are a fair number of vegan athletes who manage to train & compete at high levels on vegan diets.

Seeds & nuts, nut butters, and nut flours can contribute significant amounts of protein to balanced vegan diets...it's not all beans. You can buy plant-based protein powders derived from seeds as well.


True, but the warning still stands. If you're an American who has eaten a mostly-American diet, trying to suddenly "cut out meat" is not the safest thing to do without extensive research. Unfortunately there are websites out there that pop up at the top of a Google search that say it's fine to eat plants for your protein without going into detail about how much and what combinations. It's true. You can eat plants for your protein, but you have to know what you're doing.

For many people, knowing how to get your protein is as simple as adding chicken to whatever meal of the day. Understanding the need for almonds, corn, beans, brown rice, and spinach in a day's worth of meals in order to get enough protein requires foresight.
This post was edited on 4/28/15 at 1:14 pm
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8820 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

What's the issue with soy?


1.) Soy is detrimental to testosterone because it is pro-estrogenic. All men should limit soy consumption.

2.) Soy is goitrogenic, meaning it can inhibit thyroid function.

3.) People think soy is more sustainable or "natural" than meat. Buy soy is the most industrialized and modified food crop out there.
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