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re: New Budweiser Products based on Different Zip Codes

Posted on 7/26/12 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by BayouBengal
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 2:57 pm to
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Yes, or use their influence to hinder distributors from carrying other beers.



And they could demand more output of a certain line therefore limiting the brewery from outputting more of their other styles or even trying new experimental styles.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 2:58 pm to
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If I worked for a BMC affiliated company(I assume you do), I would be saying the same thing.


Since I had to look up what is meant by BMC, then I guess it will prove I do not work for someone like that? Not even in the industry.

I just think that craft brew drinkers have proven that they aren't willing to sacrifice taste because of advertising. I actually find the rarer the beer the more likely to be accepted by the community.
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If Mockler can convince bars to buy the "225" beer that is similar to Abita, and locally branded at a lower price, they can tell the restaurant/bar that they can keep the difference. Hard deal for a small business or profit driven chain to turn down.

Coke does it to Pepsi right now in the BR area and that doesn't make me buy a Coke if I want a Pepsi. Is it better for the cold soda drinking public to have less options? Probably not, but a recent thread on here about Barq's creme soda proved that if you want something you won't settle for an imitation.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:02 pm to
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So bud light aged in Old Crow whiskey? Where do i sign up?





If some small place in Oregon does this, it would be considered genius.

I don't drink Bud, but anyone who thinks Sierra Nevada, Sam Adams and some of the other smaller breweries are still "craft," they are living in fantasy land.
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:08 pm to
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I don't drink Bud, but anyone who thinks Sierra Nevada, Sam Adams and some of the other smaller breweries are still "craft," they are living in fantasy land.




Depends on what your definition of craft is? I still consider them craft breweries, with the Boston Beer company being the one that is starting to become borderline. But Boston still cares about creating an excellent product that pushes palates to drink flavorful beer. They come out with seasonals, special releases, extreme beers. Sure they make their money on Boston Lager, and with their size they need to advertise but I would still say they are a craft brewery.

And Sierra Nevada is not even in question. Not many people would define Sierra Nevada as something other than craft.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:11 pm to
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Depends on what your definition of craft is?


Fair enough.

They are megabreweries pumping out huge volumes though.
Posted by BayouBengal
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:11 pm to
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I don't drink Bud, but anyone who thinks Sierra Nevada, Sam Adams and some of the other smaller breweries are still "craft," they are living in fantasy land.


I think you're mixing the definitions of craft and micro. Craft just has to with styles and micro has to do with output.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:12 pm to
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I think you're mixing the definitions of craft and micro. Craft just has to with styles and micro has to do with output.


Yes. I stand corrected.

eta: and thanks for correcting me so diplomatically. More than I deserved based on my smart arse tone.
This post was edited on 7/26/12 at 3:13 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:15 pm to
So the people in this thread don't think Bud can create true craft brews why? They have all of the resources and obviously have the know how.

Is it just because the belief/fact they are driven by the bottom dollar? I think people have proven they will pay $8-$12 a 6pack for a a brew so they should be able to make plenty off of whatever they decide to make.
Posted by rutiger
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:25 pm to
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So the people in this thread don't think Bud can create true craft brews why? They have all of the resources and obviously have the know how. Is it just because the belief/fact they are driven by the bottom dollar? I think people have proven they will pay $8-$12 a 6pack for a a brew so they should be able to make plenty off of whatever they decide to make.


Most hardcore craft drinkers arent even gonna try it because bud makes it. Just as an example, there was a HUGE backlash last year when inbev bought goose island.
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:26 pm to
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So the people in this thread don't think Bud can create true craft brews why?


I am sure they can, they won't though because:

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Is it just because the belief/fact they are driven by the bottom dollar?



Their business is not built on selling true craft beers. Their business is selling Bud, Bud Light, Mich Ultra, etc. Beers that have very little flavor and appeal to the majority of beer drinkers (unfortunately).

Coors does a decent job of making some flavorful beers (Batch 19 (or 16), Blue Moon, etc), though.
This post was edited on 7/26/12 at 3:28 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:26 pm to
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Yes, or use their influence to hinder distributors from carrying other beers.


Or better yet, what will the Bud-Shilling Distributor influence be on LA Legislators when we get a legislator to sponsor a bill allowing breweries to open tap rooms in the state?

Isn't there also currently this "10 percent rule" where breweries cannot make more than 10% of their sales directly to the consumer, therefore needing the distributor-wholesale relationship for the other 90%?
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:28 pm to
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Isn't there also currently this "10 percent rule" where breweries cannot make more than 10% of their sales directly to the consumer, therefore needing the distributor-wholesale relationship for the other 90%?




I don't think they can sell directly to the public at all.

In MS when they were trying to raise the abv limit on beers in state, big time beer came out fully against the motion.
Posted by Lloyd Christmas
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:30 pm to
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Or better yet, what will the Bud-Shilling Distributor influence be on LA Legislators when we get a legislator to sponsor a bill allowing breweries to open tap rooms in the state?



Craft brewers stand no chance in LA, at least in the near future, to get craft beer positive legislation. The distributors have too much money
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:31 pm to
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Most hardcore craft drinkers arent even gonna try it because bud makes it.


Why? Because they aren't traditionally craft?

Or because they are not a micro?
Posted by rutiger
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:33 pm to
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Posted by Tigertown in ATL quote: Most hardcore craft drinkers arent even gonna try it because bud makes it. Why? Because they aren't traditionally craft? Or because they are not a micro?


Most craft drinkers are well informed and know that they are the devil imo.
Posted by Lloyd Christmas
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:35 pm to
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Why? Because they aren't traditionally craft?

Or because they are not a micro?


Because history has shown us that when Bud gets "adventurous", the results have been poor.

Michelob line
Bud American Ale
Shock Top
Ziegenbock
Bud Light Golden Wheat
etc
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:35 pm to
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Most craft drinkers are well informed and know that they are the devil




Well, I suppose one can't argue with "it's cause they are the devil."
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:37 pm to
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Michelob line
Bud American Ale
Shock Top
Ziegenbock
Bud Light Golden Wheat
etc


Don't forget the Bud Light Climato
Posted by rutiger
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:39 pm to
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quote: Most craft drinkers are well informed and know that they are the devil Well, I suppose one can't argue with "it's cause they are the devil."


Watch the movie beer wars.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 7/26/12 at 3:39 pm to
I don't think Shock Top is bad at all.
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