re: Menthol or Peppermint Beer

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with all due respect, the shits for fad people

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What is fad people? It's a steady growth of 35% for the past 6-8 years.

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.how many brewerys have come and gone...why?

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If a brewery doesn't make it, it's because they either A) produce shitty beer, b) do not have the funds to expand c) are no longer trying to compete with the market.

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Because just like some pretentious arse bistro, when it's not "new" anymore, people stop going.....because it has nothing to do with the taste or quality

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No one has "stopped going". And it has everything to do with taste and quality.

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there's no long term loyalty or desire to find a loyalty

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Tell that to Sierra Nevada, Stone, Lagunitas, Dogfish Head, Sam Adams, Oskar Blues, Parish, NOLA, Southern Tier, New Belgium, etc... There is a huge loyal following to these breweries because they consistently make quality beers.

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they know their promiscuous customers, and keep shoveling shite arse "new flavors" to satiate their flawed sense of accomplishment.

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What are you blabbering about? Listen, i understand your trolling isn't working on the OT, and you have no women to hate on at the moment, so you are trying to find something else to shite on.

But you are going to fail in trying to convince people, especially on this board, that craft beer is a fad.

If it was a fad, it would have leveled off a couple years ago. But the fact is, it's still growing. There is something like 500 more breweries opened this past year compared to last year. And the numbers were the same the year before.

You are starting to "hate" craft beer, just like you hate women, and whatever else you bitch about daily. You hate it because you are excluded from it. You don't drink craft beer, therefore you don't understand the tastes. You are content with you bud light, and thinking that it is still "American Made". When the entire company was bought out by a European company called In Bev. Craft beer is supported strongest at the local level. If it becomes successful at local levels, then it expands and goes out of the state. Expansion is the key to success. Just look at Parish Brewery in Broussard. They've come out with fantastic brews, and their Grand Reserve is developing a cult following, for only being made available once so far.

I used to only drink bud back in my college days. Then, i started trying new things. Sam adams and Sierra Nevada started my transition. I started drinking pale ales, then ipa's, then double ipa's. Then i started trying a multitude of different brews from different breweries. It's true that craft beer folk tend to be nomadic consumers, but we always come back to the breweries, we love the best. It's not so much the style, it's the quality of the brewery. I will always try a new Parish beer, or Dogfish head, or Karbach. Why? Because i've had their beers before and they are fantastic. But i will also try other beers from other breweries. Some taste great, some are disappointing. But it's just more knowledge of what i enjoy.

The problem with the "american" pilsner, as you call it, is that you identify the brewery by the 1 style of beer they make. You are used to bud light, therefore you say you like pilsners. I'm glad to say that i don't have a favorite style. I love a multitude of beer styles, and am open to trying almost anything. I identify my favorite beers my the breweries that make the beers. And even then it's difficult.

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guide told the story of India Pale ale

not from india

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Yes. That's common knowledge.

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guide didn't like that I said..."so it wasn't the beer they wanted, it was all that they could get...makes sense"

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1) i doubt you said that
2) They used hops, because it acts as a preservative. What does that matter, to the preferred taste nowadays?

I get it, you don't like hops. It is an ACQUIRED taste, and not to sound pretentious, but your palate must be refined to like it. Personally, i used to hate ipa's, but the more i drank of them, the better i liked them. Now, IPA's are probably one of my favorite styles of beer. Next to that would be stouts and saisons.

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guide told the story of India Pale ale

not from india

brits were sent to india, and they tried shipping beer there but it always spoiled on the way to india

so they changed the formula hopping the frick out of it so that it would survive the journey.

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Well duh. Everyone knows how they originated.

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but I'm impressed anybody would take the time to write out a lengthy, well-reasoned post to this terrible troll thread.

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I know he's trolling, just felt like being informative today.

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why do microbrews employ the same marketing tactics as energy drink manufacturers?

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How does a picture of 27 energy drinks even come close to supporting that premise?

I wish micros would start selling beers in 6 packs, 12 packs, 18 packs, cases, 30 packs, 6 packs of tallboys, 24 oz cans, ponies, long necks, quarts, 40s, punch top cans, vortex bottles, and color changing mountain cans.

I mean, I need options.

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BugAC

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stop feeding the troll

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I wish micros would start selling beers in 6 packs, 12 packs, 18 packs, cases, 30 packs, 6 packs of tallboys, 24 oz cans, ponies, long necks, quarts, 40s, punch top cans, vortex bottles, and color changing mountain cans.

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And then you have this shite. The most innovative the big 3 have come in the beer world, is what cannister the beer is served in. They haven't tried new formulas or new recipes. Why? Because they can't compete in that arena with the craft industry.

They have their dedicated bud guys and they are making a killing off of them. That's fine. Just don't try to pass your shite off as "craft beer" when it's the same repackaged horse piss.