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Lets talk Martini shall we?

Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:55 pm
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:55 pm
Shaken, never stirred...


Was he reinstated yesterday?



Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:57 pm to
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Shaken, never stirred...


Either is fine with me as long as it's gin.

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reinstated?


Inquiring minds want to know.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:00 pm to
All good as long as the bottle of vermouth remains unopened
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:00 pm to
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bottle of vermouth remains unopened
Agreed. Stuff tastes like cotton, IMO
Posted by Rohan2Reed
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:01 pm to
My martini preference:

- swirl splash of dry vermouth around ice cold martini glass, discard
- mix gin + olive juice with ice by stirring
- strain into glass
- garnish with 2 blue cheese stuffed olives


Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:02 pm to
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2 blue cheese stuffed olives
Interesting. Never thought of that...
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:03 pm to



Chicken scratched it
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:05 pm to
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Chicken scratched it
Saw that. He told Gris to put him on the 'prayer' list. If she couldn't get it done, it just wasn't in the cards.
Posted by Artie Rome
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:07 pm to
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Was he reinstated yesterday?


Didn't know he was banned. Nobody has been around so long and gotten away with so much. He really is a garbage pile.
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:15 pm to
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He really is a garbage pile.
Meh
Posted by BlackenedOut
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:19 pm to
That isnt a martini. Its gin and olive juice in a vermouth rinsed glass.

I like a 3:1 or 4:1 gin to vermouth mix. Into a mixing glass, lots of ice, stir for 50 rotations (no more, no less), strain into a chilled glass. Lemon peel spritzed over top and dropped in glass. Rinse and repeat as necessary.

I know its "cool" to say "Gin with a whisper of there being a bottle of vermouth on the bar", but you really need the sweet, herbal deliciousness of vermouth to do justice to this most classic cocktail.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:38 pm to
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I know its "cool" to say "Gin with a whisper of there being a bottle of vermouth on the bar", but you really need the sweet, herbal deliciousness of vermouth to do justice to this most classic cocktail.


I don't really think being "cool" has anything to do with it. Some people (as evidenced in this thread) don't even like the idea of a splash of vermouth, let alone mixing a cocktail 3:1 with it. I can do a 3:1 or 4:1 mix if the vermouth is really solid, but most times I'd rather a hint of it in the backdrop rather than it being too powerful.
Posted by BlackenedOut
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:44 pm to
You see the vermouth as the power in that race car?

Interesting. Not saying it is incorrect, but I always imagine the vermouth as what tames the power, the brakes and power steering if you will. I like a Dolin dry vermouth and a good gin. I like the way it tones down the sharpness of the alcohol and can push to the front botanicals, citrus, and floral flavors. I like to eat a few olives or potato chips for the salt component, maybe some boiled peanuts if I am lucky. I prefer to have one as close to sunset as possible.

Although I will say that two olives over which two martinis have been poured is a pretty fantastic meal. I like to put my olives in the freezer. Try it.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:46 pm to
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You see the vermouth as the power in that race car?

Interesting. Not saying it is incorrect, but I always imagine the vermouth as what tames the power, the brakes and power steering if you will. I like a Dolin dry vermouth and a good gin. I like the way it tones down the sharpness of the alcohol and can push to the front botanicals, citrus, and floral flavors.


I like a little bit of floral flavor but too much and it ruins the drink for me.

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Although I will say that two olives over which two martinis have been poured is a pretty fantastic meal. I like to put my olives in the freezer. Try it.



Thanks for the tip I'll try it out next time.
Posted by Matisyeezy
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:53 pm to
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That isnt a martini. Its gin and olive juice in a vermouth rinsed glass.

I like a 3:1 or 4:1 gin to vermouth mix.


I'm not going to "snob" (by that I mean be precise with a definition) and say that one or the other disqualifies something from being a martini, but I'm with BO on this one. If the vermouth is even halfway decent I want it to be present as I find that it enhances the overall flavor. Certainly that's subjective, but we like what we like. And obviously it's a delicate balance -- if the vermouth is too present that is equally problematic.
Posted by BlackenedOut
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:57 pm to
Hear, hear.

There are martini variants, just as there are old fashion, mojito, negroni, etc... variants. But a martini is, and has been for most of documented cocktail history, a very specific drink of two ingredients in certain proportions (in fact original martini was probably 50/50) with select garnishes (say a dash of bitters, olives, or lemon).
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:59 pm to
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obviously it's a delicate balance


True. I'd rather have straight gin than too much vermouth though. But I love gin.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:39 pm to
Never shake gin! You people are heathens.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:41 pm to
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I like a Dolin dry vermouth and a good gin.


You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. I salute you.
Posted by BlackenedOut
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:43 pm to
Heading to NYC next month for a conference.

Have a thousand places on itinerary but where do you think I should go
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