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I've perfected steak on a grill - but I sure screwed it up in the pan.....

Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:07 am
Posted by Spoonie Luv
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:07 am
I've got the grill down o perfection.

Room temp. Olive oil. Fresh salt and pepper. Non-match light charcoals. Chimney starter. Super high, concentrated heat just under the cast iron grill grates. Couple minutes each side. Done.

If you think it tastes better any other way (on a grill), then you don't know what you are talking about.

I tried on the stove the other day, and my results were poor. I prepped the steak the same way. Put the pan over high heat on the burner (electric) and let it go hot, hot, hot. I knew there would be smoke, so I had my window in the kitchen open - WHOOPS! Def underestimated the amount of smoke. Had to go run and open all doors. Went to flip after a couple minutes, and there was actually something catching fire in teh pan......

I cut the heat right away, and removed the pan. That side of the steak was badly burnt. Finished it off on lower heat and in the oven.

Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:12 am to
Cast iron or other material for said pan?

Once you perfect the stove/oven technique, you'll never grill another steak.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:12 am to
Fresh Salt
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:15 am to
Olive oil has a low smoke point and burns. What type of pan did you use? Cast iron is best for indoor searing, in my opinion and experience. If your cast iron is well seasoned, you can omit the oil. I use a little bit anyway, usually, but I have a VERY STRONG exhaust because my stovetop has a gas grill in the middle.
Posted by Spoonie Luv
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Once you perfect the stove/oven technique, you'll never grill another steak.

This may be true. I put that little caveat into my post about that being the best way to do it, on the grill.
Posted by Spoonie Luv
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:16 am to
quote:

Cast iron or other material for said pan?

Didnt have my cast iron.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
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Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Once you perfect the stove/oven technique, you'll never grill another steak.


That's not true for me. I like them both ways. Depends on what taste I want when I'm cooking the steak. Sometimes, I want the grill flavor and sometimes just the cast iron goodness. Same with burgers.
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:19 am to
Good point, Ms. Gris.

For filets, I'm cast-iron and inside only. Maybe just my preference.

Also, grapeseed oil has a very high flashpoint--works great for searing cow.

To the OP--use seasoned cast iron for the indoor method. It's good stuff!
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:36 am to
Someone just tell me what fresh salt is? I have never heard of such a thing.
Posted by TableMuscle
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Once you perfect the stove/oven technique, you'll never grill another steak.


agreed. consistently the best. i use a little canola oil instead of olive oil.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:40 am to
quote:

Someone just tell me what fresh salt is? I have never heard of such a thing.


I assumed she was referring to freshly ground salt like freshly ground pepper.

Don't know about it being fresher, but you can control the grind size the same way you do with pepper.

This post was edited on 2/7/12 at 10:42 am
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
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Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:40 am to
what are yalls stove top techniques?
Posted by Degas
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Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:46 am to
I was taught the hotter the better, but recently I've been backing off a bit for better results. Consider using ghee since it has a higher smoking point(and adds a nice flavour).
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47361 posts
Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:49 am to
I use ghee on occasion for steaks. I use it for pan sauteeing fish quite a bit, as well.
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:49 am to
I'm stuck on this:

quote:

If you think it tastes better any other way (on a grill), then you don't know what you are talking about.


So, why are you cooking indoors?
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47361 posts
Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:51 am to
quote:

So, why are you cooking indoors?


Rain? Too cold? 110 degrees outside?
Posted by Spoonie Luv
Member since Jun 2011
1742 posts
Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:53 am to
quote:

So, why are you cooking indoors?

I'm only talking grill methods here. If you think there is a better method WHEN cooking on a grill.

You're reading it as, "If you think there's any better method THAN grill method."

This post was edited on 2/7/12 at 10:57 am
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 2/7/12 at 10:59 am to
I'm reading it as

quote:

If you think it tastes better any other way (on a grill), then you don't know what you are talking about.


Not sure what other way there is to ready this? haha

Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47361 posts
Posted on 2/7/12 at 11:00 am to
I misread it, also.
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 2/7/12 at 11:16 am to
quote:

Olive oil has a low smoke point and burns


Its not that low actually.

quote:

Olive Oil: Unrefined 320 F
(Good Eats) 375 F
Extra Virgin* 406 F
Virgin** 420 F
Olive Oil* 438 F
Pomace Oil** 460 F
Extra Light* 468 F
Peanut Oil: Unrefined 320 F
Peanut Oil† 440 F
Peanut Oil, Refined
(Good Eats) 450 F


But I think the light pan, and the fact that he went to open all the windows and doors instead of tending his steak might have something to do with it.
This post was edited on 2/7/12 at 11:26 am
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