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Posted on 10/5/20 at 5:23 pm to McVick
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I used to think of gumbo as a soup, but now I'm in camp stew.
See for me, stew is a subcategory of soup. Just like bisque is.
It’s like how all bourbons are whiskeys but not all whiskeys are bourbons. All stews are soups, but not all soups are stews.
This post was edited on 10/5/20 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 10/5/20 at 6:17 pm to Midget Death Squad
Roux is a thickening agent used in many dishes, including soups.
Posted on 10/5/20 at 6:30 pm to LouisianaLady
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See for me, stew is a subcategory of soup. Just like bisque is.
It’s like how all bourbons are whiskeys but not all whiskeys are bourbons. All stews are soups, but not all soups are stews.
See now we get into the minutiae. How do you define a stew? Is it more based on the process of stewing meat using liquid to slowly cook the ingredients? Do you view stews closer to soup than braising? Is the liquid the star of a stew or is it the solid ingredients?
To me a modern gumbo is closer to stew than a soup because of the preparation, presentation, and technique. The preference is for chunks of meat over blended or tiny bits, the final product isn't strained or blended, and typically takes longer to cook with little to no stirring involved. Obviously a seafood gumbo doesn't take as long as a c&s gumbo, but the proteins still remains whole and unblended unlike a bisque and is served over rice.
Now let's talk about the holes in this argument.
Posted on 10/5/20 at 6:35 pm to McVick
Gumbo is the soup that all soups should aspire to be.
I think if I was cooking gumbo at home and someone showed up who had no idea that gumbo existed, they'd ask what kind of soup I was cooking.
I think if I was cooking gumbo at home and someone showed up who had no idea that gumbo existed, they'd ask what kind of soup I was cooking.
Posted on 10/5/20 at 6:45 pm to SW2SCLA
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Gumbo is the soup that all soups should aspire to be.
I think if I was cooking gumbo at home and someone showed up who had no idea that gumbo existed, they'd ask what kind of soup I was cooking.
So gumbo is a rustic soup?
Posted on 10/5/20 at 9:55 pm to McVick
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How do you define a stew? Is it more based on the process of stewing meat using liquid to slowly cook the ingredients? Do you view stews closer to soup than braising? Is the liquid the star of a stew or is it the solid ingredients?
Good question. To pick this apart, let's say my stew is beef stew/bourguignon and my braised meat dish is short ribs or pot roast. Picking these because they are both beef and similar-ish, but I only consider the first one to be a stew.
I think for me, what makes beef bourguignon a stew is that you are putting it in a bowl and eating it with a spoon. Some might eat it over rice, but the liquid at least shares the limelight with the solids. You ladle a decent cup or so of liquid into a bowl, not just a little bit, and eat it like a soup.
For braised meat like pot roast or short ribs, the liquid is used more like a gravy. You might serve it over polenta/potatoes/rice, but you're only ladling a small amount of the juices meant to be a gravy. You aren't putting a full cup of pot roast juice into a bowl and eating it like soup. At least, most people don't.
I have no idea if any of this makes sense
Posted on 10/5/20 at 10:40 pm to JTM72
This question has caused 7,000 comment fights here. Mothers have beat their kids. Fathers have left their wives. Grandmothers have cut children out of their wills.
Just call it what you want. If you need a real professional answer, hire 200 chefs from Louisiana and take a poll. Then you will know no more than you do right now.
I have an opinion with carefully reasoned supporting data that I will keep to myself. IMO that will upset both sides.
I will tell you, it is a wonderful bowl of good stuff and to me, that is what is really important.
What is the other unanswerable question? I remember now.
"Is a hotdog a sandwich?"
Just call it what you want. If you need a real professional answer, hire 200 chefs from Louisiana and take a poll. Then you will know no more than you do right now.
I have an opinion with carefully reasoned supporting data that I will keep to myself. IMO that will upset both sides.
I will tell you, it is a wonderful bowl of good stuff and to me, that is what is really important.
What is the other unanswerable question? I remember now.
"Is a hotdog a sandwich?"
This post was edited on 10/5/20 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 10/5/20 at 11:00 pm to JTM72
Ask SuperSaint. He knows
Posted on 10/6/20 at 6:31 am to LouisianaLady
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I think for me, what makes beef bourguignon a stew is that you are putting it in a bowl and eating it with a spoon.
I don't know about you LL but I typically eat pot roast out of a big bowl with a spoon.
I was going to say that maybe a defining quality of a braised dish is that it's cooked in an oven vs on a stovetop but I cook my beef stew in the oven as well.
Meridian dog is right, the question is divisive and the answer will probably never achieve a consensus.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 10:30 am to JTM72
type of stew, kinda. really in its own class
Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:15 am to MeridianDog
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"Is a hotdog a sandwich?"
Yes.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:22 am to MeridianDog
Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:40 am to LSUZombie
quote:People who are ignorant on the subject, no offense buts its true, will argue this but by definition a gumbo is 100% a soup. It is made as a watery soup on top of rice with meats.
More a stew than a soup
fast forward decades where everyone any their mother has made it and adapted it to how they like it, it can be made many ways, soups, stews etc. But traditional gumdo is a soup.
ETA: frick it, i hope i offended you ignorant frickers.
This post was edited on 10/6/20 at 11:45 am
Posted on 10/6/20 at 12:52 pm to LSUBoo
quote:agreed. the hotdog isnt a sandwich baw is a retard.
"Is a hotdog a sandwich?"
yes
a hotdog is any dish where bread serves as a container or wrapper for another food type. per wiki. that sound like a hot dog to me.
This post was edited on 10/6/20 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 10/6/20 at 1:41 pm to CarRamrod
So, is a poboy a sandwich? That's another one that gets a lot of posts.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 2:21 pm to Gris Gris
Yes, a po’boy is a sandwich. It’s protein between bread. So is a hamburger and a hotdog. They’re both sandwiches.
Gumbo is a soup and a stew because stews are also soups.
Gumbo is also, arguably, a curry.
Gumbo is a soup and a stew because stews are also soups.
Gumbo is also, arguably, a curry.
Posted on 10/6/20 at 2:22 pm to Gris Gris
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So, is a poboy a sandwich?
Yes, of course it is.
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