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re: I'm beginning to catch on to the criticism of the BR food scene

Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:31 am to
Posted by LouisianaLady
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:31 am to
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There's nothing unique about a hamburger, but does this board not brag about who does it best?


If you think this, then you simply don't look at it the same way I do.

There's a huge difference between an overworked low quality patty, pressed all the juices out, cooked well done on a packaged sesame seed bun with iceburg lettuce and gobs of mayo/mustard/ketchup... vs. a good quality fatty meat, freshly ground, lightly handled as to not overwork, s&p crusted sear, med-rare, on a brioche bun with a house-made sauce.. maybe a chipotle aioli or something, house made pickles, arugula or something, a good cheese, etc.
If you think all burgers are just burgers, then we are fundamentally different and this discussion won't lead anywhere because you think places with unexciting burgers/sandwiches (like Brewbachers, AM Mart, etc.) are good.. rather than just edible/decent.

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What about some of the more unique options at the Chimes?


What? The turkey croissant? The chicken sandwich? The salmon sandwich? They aren't making sauces.. sourcing quality bread.. using housemade pickles.. etc.

I like the Chimes, but it wouldn't even be mentioned much in a more food-centric city.

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There's something to be said for doing something simple and doing it well.


AM Mart makes a sandwich. They do nothing else special. They put together deli meat and cheese and grocery store condiments and might heat it for you. I can do that at home. Is it inedible? No. Is it anything I'd consider a contributer to a thriving food scene? Hell no.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:33 am to
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The city appears to have no interest in Vietnamese food and only casual interest in "fresh" fare.


You've clearly never been out to the Sherwood/Florida area. The Viet community in Baton Rouge is very strong out there.

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I could list 50 places in NOLA at similar price points that run circles around those places.


As could anyone else, but we are not New Orleans, nor is anyone else, nor will we or anyone else ever be! New Orleans isn't the standard, it's the outlier!
Posted by Oenophile Brah
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:33 am to
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Not all college students are alike but, for the most part, they are pretty much the same across the board when it comes to food. Just because some people at Tulane eat at Vietnamese places(which actually tend to be cheap), that doesn't mean handfuls aren't still eating ramen and cheetos for dinner

This is my point. The cheap LSU student goes and grabs a cajun turkey at AM Mart and the cheap Tulane kid runs and grabs a bahn Mi or quinoa salad. This happens all the time, because I see it every week. These places are flush with college kids. The prices are similar, but the product is worlds apart.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:34 am to
Basically, as I said earlier, Baton Rouge has a handful of places that do it right. We really do.

My gripe is not those places or what they serve. My gripe is the lack of options.. the fact that there is only a handful.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:34 am to
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There's a huge difference between....


Indeed.

The difference is about $7.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:36 am to
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You've clearly never been out to the Sherwood/Florida area. The Viet community in Baton Rouge is very strong out there.


He said the city. I'd feel confident saying 80% of the city has never been to any of those places.

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As could anyone else, but we are not New Orleans, nor is anyone else, nor will we or anyone else ever be! New Orleans isn't the standard, it's the outlier!


Even Jackson, MS has more of the type of restaurants I'd like to see in Baton Rouge. That scares me.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:36 am to
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Indeed.

The difference is about $7.


Exactly. Raul's may not be unique, but it's tasty. There's no arugula, brioche, or havarti cheese there, just a tasty burger. I don't find the patties at Burgersmith or Fat Cow to be nearly as good. Eventually, Barcadia will be open so I can satisfy my craft burger fix.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:38 am to
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:38 am to
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The cheap LSU student goes and grabs a cajun turkey at AM Mart and the cheap Tulane kid runs and grabs a bahn Mi or quinoa salad.


So say its because of the availability and not because they're LSU students. Switch the options around on each campus and I guarantee you the AM mart would be crawling with Tulane students.

Tulane is also an urban campus with plenty of these great options much closer than the ones in BR.

And really wtf is the point of this? Everyone knows nola>BR when it comes to food. No need to hammer that point into the ground anymore
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69316 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:39 am to
Does not Le Creole change their menu often enough? How about Stroube's, the little Village, Galatoire's, Manseur's, Bousolei, Faculty Club, ect? Sure, more places like that couldn't hurt, but saying they don't exist just because you don't go to them is pretty ignorant.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82743 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:40 am to
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The difference is about $7.


Eh. I think I paid $12 for a burger and fries at High Hat a couple weeks ago.

A burger and fry combo at Brewbachers (hate that place) is not much cheaper. Burger is like $6.50-$7; fries are like $3.

But regardless, price wasn't my point. Like I said earlier, I am not blaming any particular person or shitting on BR.. I'm simply allowed to be upset that my best burger option in BR is only served at a decent price from 5-7pm nightly. (Burger not being the point, only an example) I'd love to have options with creative menus and lots of rotation and just .. inspired. Doesn't have to be $$$$$.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:40 am to
Lakeside $1

Tough to beat that value
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82743 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:40 am to
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Jones


Go away. You jumped in without reading. He makes very good points.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30196 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:41 am to
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Conquistador for lunch...


Zunzi's!

I have not been. I don't ever get to that part of town. The downtown location is only open after 4.

Gotta go now.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82743 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:42 am to
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saying they don't exist just because you don't go to them is pretty ignorant.


I never once in this thread said that, and i've gone out of my way to say that they do exist, but they're rare.

You know that.

Also, I said yes to every restaurant on your list except 2. Don't accuse me of not going
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 11:43 am
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:43 am to
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I think I paid $12 for a burger and fries at High Hat a couple weeks ago.


If you are paying more than $5 for:

"an overworked low quality patty, pressed all the juices out, cooked well done on a packaged sesame seed bun with iceburg lettuce and gobs of mayo/mustard/ketchup.."

then I don't know what to tell you.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82743 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:44 am to
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If you are paying more than $5 for:

"an overworked low quality patty, pressed all the juices out, cooked well done on a packaged sesame seed bun with iceburg lettuce and gobs of mayo/mustard/ketchup.."

then I don't know what to tell you.



Wait what?

High Hat is outstanding. That was my point.

A lot of the places KingBob is arguing are strengths in our food scene are simply not that amazing.. and not that cheap in comparison.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69316 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:46 am to
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If you are paying more than $5 for:

"an overworked low quality patty, pressed all the juices out, cooked well done on a packaged sesame seed bun with iceburg lettuce and gobs of mayo/mustard/ketchup.."

then I don't know what to tell you.


Exactly. Also, Brewbacher's burgers are terrible and over-priced. Not really a legit comparison. You should have gone with a more apt comparison like George's, Dearman's, Akasha, Raul's, Riverside Patty, ect. None of them do anything unique, but all occupy that $5-$7 range with their burgers and get lots of love from the Baton Rouge community. I have never once, nor ever will, tout Brewbacher's as a great culinary addition to Baton Rouge's food scene.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 11:48 am
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30196 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:47 am to
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Wait what?

High Hat is outstanding. That was my point.



I'm mostly joking around. Your descriptions of the 2 types of burgers led to my statement that the difference in the 2 described is $7 (with a laughy guy).

You said the High Hat things was $12.

So I said you shouldn't be paying more than $5 (the $7 difference) for that abomination you described.

Not important, just explaining my obviously obtuse joking.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82743 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:50 am to
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Exactly. Also, Brewbacher's burgers are terrible and over-priced. Not really a legit comparison. You should have gone with a more apt comparison like George's, Dearman's, Akasha, Raul's, Riverside Patty, ect. None of them do anything unique, but all occupy that $5-$7 range with their burgers and get lots of love from the Baton Rouge community.


That's exactly the point.

I don't know why this is turning into a "I eat it because it's cheaper". OP was about BR's limited selection of high quality restaurants..how the same places are recommended because there are so few that really knock it out the park. It was never about price.

Yes, the "Baton Rouge community" rewards mediocre food at numerous places due to price, atmosphere, location, etc. You're absolutely right.

I agree with that.

Which is why I'm sad. I wish we had more creative and inspired places. I wish I didn't have to visit an "upscale" restaurant or visit one of the handful of good casual places or drive across town to get that type of food.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 11:53 am
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