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How does this recipe look for a duck gumbo (pics will follow)

Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:02 am
Posted by NOLAGT
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:02 am
How does this look for a plan of attack? Anything missing...anything not enough or too much. Not sure about how much salt and pepper to use or any kind of heat like cayenne pepper. I plan to do the smoking, roasting, and making the stock Friday and gumbo Saturday. Thanks!

Smoke 4 mallards 225 for 2hrs with pecan

Debone and roast bones at 400 for 1hr

For the stock

Roasted bones
8qt water
2 lg onion quartered
4 stalkes celery quartered
3 fresh bay leaves
3 cloves garlic diced
1/2 tsp salt
1/2 tsp pepper

Simmer for 1.5hrs then chill and skim surface

For the gumbo

2 cups flour
1.5 cups oil
2 cups andouille sausage
2 cups onion
1 cup celery
1 cup green pepper
4 cloves minced garlic
2 carrots sliced thin
3 tbs chopped parsley
4 qts duck stock

Make roux then add veggies and cook for 10 min. Add stock and seasoning and boil for 15 min. Add meat and simmer for 1.5-2hrs.
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 10:03 am
Posted by Neauxla
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:05 am to
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2 carrots sliced thin
get that out of here


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Smoke 4 mallards 225 for 2hrs with pecan


I also think a quick hot smoke is better for if it is going into gumbo. Nice sear on the meat and still get enough smoke flavor.
Posted by NOLAGT
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:06 am to
Yea was unsure about the carrots lol...86ed

I think id rather a longer cooler smoke to get more of the smoke flavor. Roasting the bones I think would get that sear flavor?

Smoke 4 mallards 225 for 2hrs with pecan

Debone and roast bones at 400 for 1hr

For the stock

Roasted bones
8qt water
2 lg onion quartered
4 stalkes celery quartered
3 fresh bay leaves
3 cloves garlic diced
1/2 tsp salt
1/2 tsp pepper

Simmer for 1.5hrs then chill and skim surface

For the gumbo

2 cups flour
1.5 cups oil
2 cups andouille sausage
2 cups onion
1 cup celery
1 cup green pepper
4 cloves minced garlic
3 tbs chopped parsley
4 qts duck stock

Make roux then add veggies and cook for 10 min. Add stock and seasoning and boil for 15 min. Add meat and simmer for 1.5-2hrs.
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 10:09 am
Posted by PapaPogey
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:08 am to
Posted by Neauxla
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:09 am to
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Yea was unsure about the carrots lol...86ed
you can add them to your stock if you want, but not the final product.

ETA: Also, roast all your stock veggies w/ your bones.
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 10:10 am
Posted by NOLAGT
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:42 am to
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ETA: Also, roast all your stock veggies w/ your bones.


Was just talking to a friend about that...I am doing that and will add 4 carrots to the stock.

He also said I could add a 8oz can or tomato paste (smear on bones/veggies) during the roasting process thoughts on that?
Posted by pooponsaban
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:43 am to
You folks sure can over-think things.
Posted by Neauxla
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:44 am to
I don't like tomato of any kind in my gumbo
Posted by NOLAGT
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:45 am to
First attempt at making a gumbo of any kind...so I need a list

Yea was unsure about tomato in a gumbo...but sounded good too lol.
Posted by Neauxla
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:47 am to
Make sure you get your roux to the color of a dirty old penny
Posted by NOLAGT
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 10:54 am to
yea thats what I was shooting for. I think im going to boil the stock a little longer too...2-3hrs.

Smoke 4 mallards 225 for 2hrs with pecan

Debone and roast bones and stock veggies at 400 for 1hr

For the stock

Roasted bones and veggies
8qt water
2 lg onion quartered
4 stalkes celery quartered
4 carrots quartered
3 fresh bay leaves
3 cloves garlic diced
1/2 tsp salt
1/2 tsp pepper

Simmer for 2-3 hrs then chill and skim surface

For the gumbo

2 cups flour
1.5 cups oil
2 cups andouille sausage
2 cups onion
1 cup celery
1 cup green pepper
4 cloves minced garlic
3 tbs chopped parsley
4 qts duck stock

Make roux then add veggies and cook for 10 min. Add stock and seasoning and boil for 15 min. Add meat and simmer for 1.5-2hrs.
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 10:58 am
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:04 am to
Keep in mind that the carrots will add a sweet component. Personally, I don't use them for stocks for gumbo and certain other dishes for that reason.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:05 am to
Everything looks good..... only think I would add is some oysters if you like them. If you can get them with the liquor add that too.
Posted by BayouBlitz
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:09 am to
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For the stock Roasted bones 8qt water 2 lg onion quartered 4 stalkes celery quartered 3 fresh bay leaves 3 cloves garlic diced 1/2 tsp salt 1/2 tsp pepper


I'll never, for the life of me, understand why people want to make stock complicated. You're basically making a vegetable soup, and draining and calling it a stock.

For a duck stock, just boil the roasted bones carcass and call it a day. I will add peppercorns, as you can't readily put peppercorns in your gumbo.

All of the other ingredients you're using will be cooked in the gumbo. Why are you adding ingredients twice for the dish? Makes no sense to me.

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Add stock and seasoning and boil for 15 min.


Go longer than that. Here is where you adjust your salt and heat ingredient (cayenne, peppers, hot sauce, whatever you prefer.)

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4 qts duck stock


Don't get hung up on a measurement of stock. Use it to get the consistency you want.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:11 am to
I hate to agree with BB, but I don't season the stock either. I just low simmer the bones. I'm going to put seasoning and veggies in the gumbo. I don't use bay in gumbo. Otis seems to like it, but it has no place in my gumbo.
Posted by Neauxla
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:18 am to
I usually put Bayleaf in my gumbo but forgot to last time.

I have done the roast bones vs roast bones and veggies and I liker the latter.

Posted by BayouBlitz
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:18 am to
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I hate to agree with BB


Since I'm always right, this must be an ongoing problem for you.

Who's stalking who now?
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:23 am to
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Since I'm always right, this must be an ongoing problem for you.


Hardly.

quote:

Who's stalking who now?



I was in this thread before you were.
Posted by NOLAGT
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:26 am to

Posted by Neauxla
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:27 am to
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