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re: Homebrewing Thread: Volume II

Posted on 4/12/22 at 6:47 pm to
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 4/12/22 at 6:47 pm to
I wouldn't move them unless you want to have a wasted year, the move would stress them and they would need time to recover. After 3 or 4 years you will be able to harvest rhizomes by cutting 4 inches if rhizome off your existing plant...like the rhizome you received from wherever you bought them. I would put twine on the fence so it was something to twist around. They don't have tendrils like English ivy.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 7:57 am to
My hops are growing pretty well now. My big cascade shoot is tall enough to train on the twine. I have a big centennial shoot that is almost that tall, and a couple smaller ones. My chinook is throwing up a bunch of shoots. I have 3 or 4 small clusters.

I planted some more rhizomes last weekend to supplement what wasn't growing. Couldn't locate 2 of my older rhizomes at all. Found the other 2 that haven't sprouted through the ground. One didn't appear to have any growth. The other had a long shoot underground but just hasn't sprouted yet. Hopefully, in a few weeks, all of 9 hills will have some growth.

Also, my italian pils came out great. Stopped using the kveik/lager yeast blend and just used 34/70. Crisp and delicious. However, i don't think i could distinguish this pils from a german style. It does have a little more hop bitterness.
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 8:04 am
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 4/24/22 at 10:26 am to
I entered one of my mixed ferm saisons in the boot brew fest. Apparently I won gold! Curious to see how it scored.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 4/25/22 at 10:05 am to
So as mentioned above, my beer won gold in the Sour and Wild Fermentation Beer category with my fixed fermenation saison. Scored a 41.5 overall. Got some good feedback. Not trying to sound cocky, but i could tell this beer would place in a competition. I've been working on it for a few years. I finally got the carbonation down. Personally, i think it needs a little more malt character to the beer. It's very light right now but overall very good.

I'm going to try to enter into the rest of the bayou beer circuit competitions this year.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 8:26 am to
Just did an inventory of my sour beer program. I currently have 42 gallons of sour beer in various forms, half of which can be bottled/blended. I need to clean some of this up.

L'internationale saison - 5 gallons - This is the beer i won gold with. I'm putting this on some blueberries this weekend. Brewed/blended 4/10/21
Bring on da Funk Brett Beer - 5 gallons - This should be ready to bottle this saturday. Brewed/blended 5/17/21
Long in the Tooth Sour Solera - 6 gallons - This beer has been sitting, unblended, for awhile now. The last addition to the solera was 1.5 years ago, but the initial solera was brewed in 2018. I haven't gotten around to tasting or doing anything with it. My brother has a bunch of muscadines he saved from harvest last year in his freezer. I'll need to brew a blender batch to cut some of the acidity, more than likely, and then blend.
Biere de Garde - 5 gallons - This likely needs to be blended then bottled. This one has also been sitting for a while - Brew date 10/17/20.

I also have 3 ea, 1 gallon jugs of random sour dregs i pulled off during bottling. I'll need to taste these to see if they are worth keeping or if i should toss them. These are also around 2 years old.

Over the next month or so i plan to bottle or blend all of these, or add onto some fruit, and try to get the pipeline going.

The rest of the sour beer is my Lambic program (18 gallons worth). I have 4 batches. Dec 20 Turbid mash, June 21 turbid, Dec. 21 (3 gallon infusion batch), Feb. 22 Turbid. December of 2023 I should be ready to bottle my first gueuze. It won't be ready to drink until the following year, so say December of 2024 will be my first crack at drinking these. The plan has been to brew 1 or 2 lambic's per year, and keep a steady pipeline, and every December after 2023, bottle a new batch. This winter, i plan to try and do a wild capture of yeast also. My lambics are not "traditional" meaning i didn't wild ferment, instead i've used Wyeast Roselaire blend and an assortment of gueuze dregs that i collect throughout the year for each batch. I just don't trust what's in our air here just yet to "ruin" a 5 gallon turbid mash batch. A turbid mash brew day is about 6-7 hours all in. My efficiencies have been very high, but i can't quite hit each temperature mark with my equipment. I've been threatening to get an electric system for 2 years now, but never pulled the trigger. I think this Christmas, i'm finally going to do it.

ETA: In addition, i forgot i ordered a couple more mixed culture packs from bootleg biology. One is Jester King Brewery culture and the other is a Belgian Farmhouse culture. So i'll need to set aside some more brew dates for these as well, on top of my clean beers that i've been brewing.
This post was edited on 4/27/22 at 8:35 am
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:16 am to
quote:

I currently have 42 gallons of sour beer in various forms
I need to see a pic of this!
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:39 am to
quote:

I need to see a pic of this!


I'll try to remember to snap a picture when i go back home for lunch.

My hops are growing pretty good right now.



Cascade


Centennial


Chinook
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 4/29/22 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

I need to see a pic of this


Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:05 am to
Did a few homebrew things this weekend.

1) Puree'd 15 lbs of blueberries and racked saison that won gold on top of it.
2) Bottled a brett beer. Brewed a few months back, periodically i've been opening the bung to introduce a little oxygen so that i have some lactic acid production from the brett. Results are pretty good. Moderate to low levels of acidity. 9 of the bottles are in 12 oz bottles so i can use for competitions later on.
3) I brewed up Jester King's Le Petite Prince recipe. I substituted Styrian Golding for Fuggle (not available) and added about 1 lb. to that grain bill. I also got to use a new culture that came in. Used Bootleg Biology FerMENTORS Series: Jester King Culture. Supposed to have 92-98% attenuation so i expect this to finish out around 1.000-1.002. This was an unusual batch to brew. Total grain weight was 5 lbs, 8 oz. I'm usually double that on my beers. My mash water volume only called for 1.5 gallons, but i upped it to 2.25 so my temperature probe on my mash tun would be submerged.

On deck: I created a brew schedule to finish up my sour beer stuff i had in mind, and to brew for competitions.

5/14/22 - Bring on da funk - Another batch of the brett beer i just bottled
5/21/22 - L'Internationale Saison - Another batch of my mixed ferm saison.
5/21/22 - Belgian Farmhouse Saison - New culture from Bootleg biology i wanted to try out.
6/4/22 - Biere de Garde - Blender batch for biere de garde i need to bottle
6/4/22 - German Pils for Clash of the Carboys and for Roberts Cove Germanfest
6/18/22 - American IPA/Double IPA for Clash of the Carboys. This will be the Pliny the Elder Clone recipe that's been posted online for a few years now.
7/17/22 - Festbier for Robert's Cove Germanfest
8/13/22 - Sour Solera blender batch
10/1/22 - English Best Bitter for Tour de Brew competition

And then somewhere in there, or after, i'll have to brew another lambic batch.

What's on your brew schedule?
This post was edited on 5/3/22 at 11:14 am
Posted by LSUTiger23
Madisonville, LA
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 9:51 am to
I made a really stupid mistake yesterday. So the valve on my pot got clogged with grains yesterday. I unhooked my siphon tube from my pot and apparently dropped it in my primary fermenter. I then dumped my wort in the fermenter without realizing the siphon tube was in there.

The thing is I didn’t realize it until this morning when picking all my stuff up. My tube was brand new and properly sanitized. Is my batch ruined? I feel like at this point I should just let it set in there since it’s been in the fermenter overnight.
This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 10:30 am
Posted by mchias1
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 11:29 am to
Leave it. Don't open yourself up to infection.

If it was sanitized you probably wont have any issues. If it was infected or you try to get it, you'll most likely end up with infected beer.
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 4:05 pm to
Wanted to get in on the hop discussion. Here's my lady.



I planted 4 rhizomes (2 cascade 2 centennial) in the ground 5 years ago but only the cascades and one cenntenial took. They always grew strong and died off halfway through the growing season. I suspect it had something to do with the herbicide I sprayed for weed control, leaching into the soil.

Either way, two years ago I transplanted all three that survived into pots. They all grew well but, after this winter, only one cascade came back.

As you can see from the pic, she's doing well.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/8/22 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

My tube was brand new and properly sanitized. Is my batch ruined?


You’re fine. It’s actually kind of hard to infect a batch of beer.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58005 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 7:38 pm to
So one of mine has reached the top of the vertical twine and am having a hard time to get it to travel down the lateral run. It keeps wanting to go up. Any ideas?
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
8151 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 7:41 pm to
Go lateral rather than up or down.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55616 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

So one of mine has reached the top of the vertical twine and am having a hard time to get it to travel down the lateral run. It keeps wanting to go up. Any ideas?


Mine aren’t there yet. I’ve got 10’ before I go lateral. My tallest one is about 3 1/2 feet.

The cascade and centennial appear to have stalled out but the chinook grows about an inch or 2 per day.
This post was edited on 5/8/22 at 10:06 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58005 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Go lateral rather than up or down.


maybe i messed up by saying "down the lateral run. I meant im having a hard time having it travel along the lateral run.

so my redneck fix is to lossed the lateral run, use my pool brush pole to push the rope up and once the runner travels up to the highest point, ill remove the brush and the rope wil be draped were the hop can then travel up again!

My mad paint skills. 1. is the problem i had, 2. is the temp fix, 3. is final.

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55616 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

CarRamrod


How tall is your vertical run?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58005 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 2:32 pm to
top of my patio... so 8-10 feet.

out of my 4 plants, this is the only one that is this tall right now. the other 3 are in the 4-6' range so far. I think because 2 of them get shaded a bit, and the 3rd i missed watering a few times.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55616 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

top of my patio... so 8-10 feet.

out of my 4 plants, this is the only one that is this tall right now. the other 3 are in the 4-6' range so far. I think because 2 of them get shaded a bit, and the 3rd i missed watering a few times.




I have the one that is about 4', the rest are pretty small. I don't know if being in the ground slows growth, or if my bed is retaining too much water. I'm going to cut some channels in the back of the beds to allow them to drain a little better.

Do you fertilize with anything? I did some cow manure compost mixed with top soil and native soil.
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