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re: Homebrewing Thread: Volume II
Posted on 11/9/20 at 8:48 am to BugAC
Posted on 11/9/20 at 8:48 am to BugAC
Yep, I already brewed but haven't done any dry hopping yet.
I'll probably do the 2 separate dry hops then. I have made 1 NEIPA that hasn't had oxidation problems, and that is also the one time I filled my serving keg with starsan and completely purged it out, prior to transfer. I will be doing that for this beer, so maybe thats been the culprit on my last 2 attempts.
Will I lose some haziness if I add my biotrans hops in one of those stainless steel mesh filters? Or do they need to be added loose?
I'll probably do the 2 separate dry hops then. I have made 1 NEIPA that hasn't had oxidation problems, and that is also the one time I filled my serving keg with starsan and completely purged it out, prior to transfer. I will be doing that for this beer, so maybe thats been the culprit on my last 2 attempts.
Will I lose some haziness if I add my biotrans hops in one of those stainless steel mesh filters? Or do they need to be added loose?
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:34 am to GeauxPack81
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Will I lose some haziness if I add my biotrans hops in one of those stainless steel mesh filters?
Not sure. You may lose some utilization though just due to lack of contact of your hop oils to the beer. Will it be enough to notice? I'm not sure.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:43 am to GeauxPack81
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I have made 1 NEIPA that hasn't had oxidation problems
Well here's my process.
1) Cold Crash Guardian - I can't sing this thing's praises enough. It works great! Currently out of stock I'd get on the mailing list and request notifications on this product when it comes back in. You can also facebook message them. They are pretty responsive.
2) Purge, purge, purge - I sanitize the keg, then rinse out the sanitizer good with water, and leave about 1 gallon in the keg. I pressurize the keg, bleed off, pressurize, bleed off about 3-5 times. I then pressurize and pour out the 1 gallon of water via the tap, so now i know it's completely purged. I also put a blanket of CO2 in the fermenter prior to tranfer.
3) Sterile siphon filter O2 free transfer - I posted my setup before, but i use the siphon filter and push the beer out of the fermenter via the sterile siphon filter via CO2.
Other methods which i'm not sure if they work, but i've read about.
Mash hopping - I did this once, but not sure if it did anything. Per The New IPA book by Janish, certain hop oils reduce the metal content in the raw grains. Some grains, like flaked oats, contain higher metal content than others, which in turn makes the finished product more susceptible to oxygenation. It is said that mash hops reduce the metal content via conversion.
Yeast selection - I haven't had issues with it, but sta-1 yeasts, when Oxygen and hops are introduced, cause the beer to continue to ferment lower (hop creep). I don't know much about it, but there are certain yeast strains that are a STA-1 strain. I'd suggest doing some googling for more information on it.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:44 am to BugAC
so i cracked both of my flasks this weekend making a starter. I guess it has to do with my stove at the new house is a coil and the red hot metal cracked it.... thats the only thing i can think of. my old stove was the glass top stove. and have never had this issue. But now im contemplating to start using the canned wort starters.... i hat having to heat all that DME and cool it etc.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:49 am to BugAC
i really havent had issues with oxidation in years. and i dont do all these precautions. I ferment in a chamber so my thoughts are the chamber fills with co2 so cold crashing is just sucking co2 back in from the chamber. I do purge my kegs extremely well. but i dont transfer to a closed keg. i transfer through he open lid i just do it carefully.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:49 am to CarRamrod
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But now im contemplating to start using the canned wort starters.... i hat having to heat all that DME and cool it etc.
It's more expensive, but zero work. Open the can, pour in flask. Open a bottle of water, pour in flask. Turn on stir plate. DONE.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:55 am to BugAC
i know........... 
BUT when i make my big 5L staters... thats going to suck.
BUT when i make my big 5L staters... thats going to suck. Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:27 am to BugAC
Yeah, I've seen your setup. I had success with that same setup. I've started fermenting in kegs though, and since then it hasn't been as easy with oxidation.... I don't get it though, I feel like it should be even easier to avoid oxidation. Rather than use a cold crash guardian, I just hook it straight up to my CO2. Thats why I am thinking the only place I could possibly get O2 intrusion is either at 2nd dry hop or its already in the serving keg prior to transfer.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:29 am to GeauxPack81
Have y'all ever just poured wort onto a yeast cake for fermentation? I brewed an oatmeal stout on Saturday. Thinking about doing an imperial stout in 2 weeks and just putting it straight onto that yeast cake once I transfer the oatmeal stout into a serving keg.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:40 am to GeauxPack81
quote:like i said.... i dont have oxidation issues.
I feel like it should be even easier to avoid oxidation.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 12:15 pm to GeauxPack81
quote:
Have y'all ever just poured wort onto a yeast cake for fermentation?
Plenty of times. You're good. Just be ready with a blow-ff.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 2:37 pm to BottomlandBrew
where is the cheapest place to buy these can starters?
Posted on 11/9/20 at 4:24 pm to CarRamrod
I'd say your LHBS. They're not the cheapest thing to ship because of weight. I'm a big fan of them.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 10:57 am to GeauxPack81
So i think Saturday i will brew an Orval clone, and maybe friday night brew the kettle sour spruce gose.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 12:31 pm to BugAC
SO I brewed with me new electric system for the first time last night. I really didnt want to but im leaving town tomorrow so i wanted to get it fermenting. here are some things I learned.
1. My RIMs tube heating up my strike water so quick i was shocked. took in the realm of 15 mins to heat my water. I dont know the exact time but thats close.
2. I did not have my spraging planed out well. I ended up having to just siphon room time sparge water on to my grain bed. I have 2 options im going to experiment on with the 2 vessel system. my first option, which was my original plan, is to have the sprage water in vessels op top of the stand and gravity flow down through the rims tub, which would heat it up to sparging temps prior to going onto the grain. This has been done by a guy on homebrewtalk and he says you just need to calibrate your flow rate to trickle out at the temp you want. The other option would be to heat up the sprage water in the boil kettle and pump on top of the mash and drain at once. So a little different than a batch sprage.
3. Circulating your grain in a system designed to do it, is the greatest thing ever. The grain bed got set. the wort was crystal clear. It was awesome.
4. Still trying to figure out the best way to transfer from one pot to the other. If i should go from mash tun to pump to BK. Or MT to pump through RIMS to BK. reasoning is the loss of liquid in the rims. Do i want to lose it first or second. I really need to run it both ways and measure how much liquid i lose.
5. From mashout temp to boil, the was the quickest time i have ever gotten there. I think this has to go with my using kegs for my pots and those are just a ton of metal to heat up. but this was in the realm of 10 mins. this usually took a good 30-40 mins in kegs on a burner.
6. Boil was so easy with the EZBoil controller. I wish it wouldnt automatically go to timers but i havent messed with any of the settings so i will get better at it. I was rolling at about 65% power.
7. This comes back to not using thinner steel pots but cooling my 11+ gallons of wort down took 10-15 mins. this used to take me 30. Man those keggles were inefficient.
I still have a bunch of runs to do to get my process down but man i excited because it seemed liked a lot less work than i was doing.
1. My RIMs tube heating up my strike water so quick i was shocked. took in the realm of 15 mins to heat my water. I dont know the exact time but thats close.
2. I did not have my spraging planed out well. I ended up having to just siphon room time sparge water on to my grain bed. I have 2 options im going to experiment on with the 2 vessel system. my first option, which was my original plan, is to have the sprage water in vessels op top of the stand and gravity flow down through the rims tub, which would heat it up to sparging temps prior to going onto the grain. This has been done by a guy on homebrewtalk and he says you just need to calibrate your flow rate to trickle out at the temp you want. The other option would be to heat up the sprage water in the boil kettle and pump on top of the mash and drain at once. So a little different than a batch sprage.
3. Circulating your grain in a system designed to do it, is the greatest thing ever. The grain bed got set. the wort was crystal clear. It was awesome.
4. Still trying to figure out the best way to transfer from one pot to the other. If i should go from mash tun to pump to BK. Or MT to pump through RIMS to BK. reasoning is the loss of liquid in the rims. Do i want to lose it first or second. I really need to run it both ways and measure how much liquid i lose.
5. From mashout temp to boil, the was the quickest time i have ever gotten there. I think this has to go with my using kegs for my pots and those are just a ton of metal to heat up. but this was in the realm of 10 mins. this usually took a good 30-40 mins in kegs on a burner.
6. Boil was so easy with the EZBoil controller. I wish it wouldnt automatically go to timers but i havent messed with any of the settings so i will get better at it. I was rolling at about 65% power.
7. This comes back to not using thinner steel pots but cooling my 11+ gallons of wort down took 10-15 mins. this used to take me 30. Man those keggles were inefficient.
I still have a bunch of runs to do to get my process down but man i excited because it seemed liked a lot less work than i was doing.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 12:36 pm to BugAC
quote:
Orval clone
I can't remember if we've discussed this or not, but Orval is supposed to be very similar to what the first IPAs tasted like. I remember hearing that on a podcast and my mind being blown. It makes total sense. I think this was the podcast I heard it on.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 1:45 pm to BottomlandBrew
quote:
I can't remember if we've discussed this or not, but Orval is supposed to be very similar to what the first IPAs tasted like. I remember hearing that on a podcast and my mind being blown. It makes total sense.
Makes sense. It's more like an english pale ale than a Trappist ale, in regards to style.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 1:55 pm to CarRamrod
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I brewed with me new electric system for the first time last night.
I'm debating if i want to go electric. Right now, i'm able to brew in my outdoor kitchen. It's shaded all day. I have a tv, kegerator, and kamado joe out there. I have a sink. It's my relaxation area.
If i go electric, i'd have to do it in the garage, which gets beaten with sun from around 2/3 to sundown. No TV, no air circulation, but all of my brew equipment would be in the same area. All of my brew storage, fermenters, etc... But, i don't have a water source. I have a hose on the other side of the wall, but i'd have to bring everything inside into the laundry room to clean.
I may contact the electrician who wired my house and see how much adding a 220 in my outdoor kitchen would be. May be cheaper to have a plumber add a sink in the garage.
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 11/10/20 at 3:39 pm to BugAC
quote:why? get the plug in your outdoor kitchen
If i go electric, i'd have to do it in the garage
quote:there you go.
adding a 220 in my outdoor kitchen would be.
quote:maybe maybe not. where is your main panel?
May be cheaper to have a plumber add a sink in the garage.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 5:46 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
maybe maybe not. where is your main panel?
Garage.
Anyone know who sells goodbelly probiotic drinks?
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 5:46 pm
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